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As a follow up to the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Trying to create Tim Peel|discussion]], I hadn't seen the 2017 Tim Peel article, and I apologize for having failed to improve upon it. Thank you for your response. [[User:White 720|White 720]] ([[User talk:White 720|talk]]) 00:15, 19 February 2023 (UTC) |
As a follow up to the [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Trying to create Tim Peel|discussion]], I hadn't seen the 2017 Tim Peel article, and I apologize for having failed to improve upon it. Thank you for your response. [[User:White 720|White 720]] ([[User talk:White 720|talk]]) 00:15, 19 February 2023 (UTC) |
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For all the admin work I've seen you doing. Keep it up! ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 21:14, 7 February 2023 (UTC) |
- Thank you kindly, much appreciated. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:15, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Frelinghuysen University
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Jim TBan
Just wanted to voice my complete astonishment that that editor has been topic banned. I've had strong disagreements with that editor on those articles, but they've always maintained civility. The only issue I've seen is an tendency to WP:BLUDGEON which is worthy of a warning, but to remove a valuable editor who has invested a ton of time into those articles is a shame. Frankly is discourages me from participating on those articles if this is how disputes are going to be resolved. Nemov (talk) 16:54, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- I don't mean to interject--but SFR's reading of consensus was clearly correct there. This was not something he did under his own aegis. I am not sure I personally would have voted for a tban, and I even tried to give Jim opportunities over there to say the right thing--essentially that he saw that consensus was going another way and he would proceed accordingly. His inability to do that without caveating and defensive hand-waving did not help him. I hope after an appropriate length of time he asks for the ban to be lifted. Happy Friday. Dumuzid (talk) 17:01, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- I agree to some extent, but this should have never been escalated to this point. I only found about this entire discussion a couple of days ago by accident. The editors warring with Jim and the others have been opening up discussions all over the place. I disagree with how this was handled and now 8 days later the user is been pushed out with several involved editors (who disagreed with him the past) opposed to sanctions. Nemov (talk) 18:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- There was a clear consensus for the topic ban in that discussion. We don't ignore consensus because an editor has made valuable contributions to a topic. That said, indefinite is not infinite, and it is likely that the ban can be lifted in the future. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:03, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, several new editors to main year articles have started & continued several concurrent discussions which seek to greatly change the format & inclusion bars for the articles, as well as splitting sections off into new articles. Some of the discussions conflict with each other & some editors are arguing for different things in different discussions, such as arguing for expanding the Deaths sections in one discussion, but arguing to delete them in another. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 18:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
I disagree with the assessment that the consensus was to ban User:Jim Michael 2 from 'Year Articles' "broadly construed". All of the arguments and problems are around activity in relation to the 'Main Year' articles. Can you clarify if you believe the consensus was related to main year articles, or any article about a year in general e.g. "2022 in Sport", or "2022 in America" etc.? Could you review the exact wording of your close please? I've clashed with Jim plenty of times in the past but he's always come across to me as someone who edits with the best intentions of the encyclopedia in mind, and a topic ban that basically encompasses 90% of his editting when the issue is about actions in talk pages on some of those articles seems ridiculously harsh. In fact if he's topic-banned to prevent bludgeoning in talk pages and RFCs, why does the TBAN include editing at all? JeffUK 18:15, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- I agree with you. I've improved many year by country articles without any conflict with anyone. Banning me from them makes no sense. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 18:30, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- The problem was wider than the main year articles, as demonstrated by concerns about Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#RFC: split births & deaths from year articles, which is ancillary to the year articles themselves. The broadly construed language, which was present in the initial topic ban !vote, is very standard. A response like
Support TBAN of Jim Michael 2 from years articles and related discussions
does not read as "narrowly prevented from editing just discussions on the main year articles, and should probably be allowed to continue to edit the articles themselves." ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)- Again, that RFC relates specifically to year articles ("(e.g., 2022)") not a 'Year in x' or 'X in Year' articles. Most of the !votes just say 'year articles' which could mean either. JeffUK 19:12, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, most of the contributors wouldn't have even been thinking about the subarticles, because I've never been in a dispute on any of them. None of the RfCs, nor the discussions on article talk pages, the Years project, village pump etc. related to the inclusion bars, format etc. of any of the subarticles. I've been improving them for years without any problems, so banning me from them is a disadvantage all round & can't help anyone. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 19:23, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- WP:BROADLY covers this. I've already carved out significant exemptions so you're not entirely disconnected from your main area of editing, while hopefully preventing disruptive editing. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:32, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Yes, most of the contributors wouldn't have even been thinking about the subarticles, because I've never been in a dispute on any of them. None of the RfCs, nor the discussions on article talk pages, the Years project, village pump etc. related to the inclusion bars, format etc. of any of the subarticles. I've been improving them for years without any problems, so banning me from them is a disadvantage all round & can't help anyone. Jim Michael 2 (talk) 19:23, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
- Again, that RFC relates specifically to year articles ("(e.g., 2022)") not a 'Year in x' or 'X in Year' articles. Most of the !votes just say 'year articles' which could mean either. JeffUK 19:12, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
I disagree with the assessment that the consensus was to ban User:Jim Michael 2 from 'Year Articles' "broadly construed".
Please see WP:TBAN. The "broadly construed" is (as SFR notes just above) standard language for a TBAN. There's also a little more at WP:BROADLY. —Locke Cole • t • c 18:47, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Frelinghuysen University
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- Congratulations SFR! Thanks for the thorough but speedy reviewing, PC. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 00:23, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
- That's another campaign promise kept! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
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You deserve a damn medal for this close my friend. Hope harvests have been good and meals filling. Star Mississippi 17:06, 14 February 2023 (UTC) |
- Heh, thanks. A mere 28k words.
- Not much harvesting going on now, but I have four rabbits bred, should start birthing in a 2 or 3 weeks! ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:09, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- baby bunnies! Forget the New Years Baby, maybe you'll have the next Easter Bunny! Star Mississippi 17:37, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- That's where Easter Bunnies come from, first mating of the year! It's been a pretty mild winter, though, so nature may beat me to it this year. The Easter egg hunt is a similar thing, around Easter the hens are getting back up to warm-weather laying patterns, so you send the kids out to find out where they're laying. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Oh fascinating. Thanks for that agricultural history lesson. Star Mississippi 19:29, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- That's where Easter Bunnies come from, first mating of the year! It's been a pretty mild winter, though, so nature may beat me to it this year. The Easter egg hunt is a similar thing, around Easter the hens are getting back up to warm-weather laying patterns, so you send the kids out to find out where they're laying. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- baby bunnies! Forget the New Years Baby, maybe you'll have the next Easter Bunny! Star Mississippi 17:37, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
DYKN
Hi ScottishFinnishRadish, I just reviewed your DYKN for Frelinghuysen University. I am just waiting on you to provide QPQ and it is all set to be approved. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 19:44, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Do I need a QPQ? It's my third DYK. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:45, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Trainsandotherthings, pinging in case you're not watching. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:19, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I wasn't watching. In that case you do not. Going forward, make sure to state that on the nomination page so the reviewer knows. I'll go approve it now. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:25, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Will do, sorry about that. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:57, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry, I wasn't watching. In that case you do not. Going forward, make sure to state that on the nomination page so the reviewer knows. I'll go approve it now. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 20:25, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
- Trainsandotherthings, pinging in case you're not watching. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:19, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
مهدي جزائري (continued)
Hi. مهدي جزائري (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has returned as 154.121.99.0 (talk · contribs · WHOIS). Many of their edits have been okay, but those at Ishak Ali Moussa (diff) were blatantly unsourced. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 09:49, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
- I've range blocked for two weeks this time. Looks like they've been active on other IPs as well. [1] Too bad I can't pblock by category. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:26, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
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Bias
Describing someone's beliefs as "fringe" or calling a view debated in the scientific community "false" is in violation of wikipedia's policy. I attempted to remove these charged words from a page. You removing my edit violates wikipedia policy and turns wikipedia into a website to push political beliefs. 98.10.105.122 (talk) 00:01, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- I suggest you discuss your proposed changes on the talk pages with sources to support your wording. Talk:Monica Gandhi#Issues with TB's version is an example of how this should work in practice. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 00:07, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
frelinghuysen university
hello, ScottishFinnishRadish! regarding your dyk nomination of this article, to fulfill your request, i squeezed your hook into the set i was compiling so that, hopefully, it will hit the main page before the end of the month. according to the current schedule, your hook should be up in d.c. for the last five hours of february. if the schedule shifts to two sets a day before then, it may show up earlier.
by the way, for future reference, i believe hooks with images of english text generally do not get selected to run in the image slot because they are often not really integral to the hook and are generally less interesting than the other images available. in contrast, for example, the image i ended up selecting is basically the core of the hook it illustrates. dying (talk) 16:55, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- No worries on the image, I just tossed it in there on the off chance there was an image hook open. Thanks for getting it scheduled. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:13, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Question from DKaufmann4492 on User:DKaufmann4492/sandbox (20:17, 18 February 2023)
Good afternoon I am trying to publish a page on a Taekwondo practitioner from Pennsylvania who has been inducted into two different Martial Arts Halls of Fame. I have many articles cited on my draft and probably will add videos and photos. But I was wondering if you could take a look at it. --DKaufmann4492 (talk) 20:17, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- DKaufmann4492, I took a look at the article, and it doesn't look like it would be ready for inclusion at this time. When we assess notability for a Wikipedia articles we rely on secondary, independent, reliable sources. Local blogs such as thunderoutreach.com and buildingabetterboyertown.org don't contribute to notability. Similarly, with amerikickinternationals.com, if being inducted into their hall of fame wasn't covered in secondary sources then it does not help to demonstrate that the subject is notable enough, in the Wikipedia sense, for an article. Also, the source you're using for the Last Airbender stuff is a forum post, not Kung Fu Magazine, which refers to a non-archived page on a community television station's website. I did a bit of searching, and there are a few mentions in local news, but nothing that would meet the criteria set out in WP:NBIO. If you can find some reliable sources, I'd be happy to take a look again. Sorry for what I'm sure is disappointing news, but Wikipedia has specific requirements and our own definition of notability. If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:49, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- No, I'm just compiling information at this time. I know the guy so I've been working on it. He is extremely well-known in the Martial Arts world and has a bunch of championships. I just need to gather some information. unfortunately, it was before the internet so some information is in print and not archived online. I'll keep working on it. Thanks for the information. DKaufmann4492 (talk) 21:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- DKaufmann4492, keep the conflict of interest guidelines in mind. Generally, editing about someone you know personally is frowned upon, and it brings a lot more scrutiny to your article. If you do a decent amount of editing (500+ edits, 6 months of account age, and 10 edits in the past month), you'll gain access to WP:TWL which can provide access to a lot of offline and paywalled sources. I use to to access newspapers.com, which lets me find a lot of older dead-tree content.
- Glad I could provide you with some info. If you need anything else, reach out. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 21:28, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- oh it's not a conflict of interest. I just happen to know the guy from the Taekwondo world.
- thanks for the info on the paywall stuff DKaufmann4492 (talk) 21:31, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- No, I'm just compiling information at this time. I know the guy so I've been working on it. He is extremely well-known in the Martial Arts world and has a bunch of championships. I just need to gather some information. unfortunately, it was before the internet so some information is in print and not archived online. I'll keep working on it. Thanks for the information. DKaufmann4492 (talk) 21:23, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
As a follow up to the discussion, I hadn't seen the 2017 Tim Peel article, and I apologize for having failed to improve upon it. Thank you for your response. White 720 (talk) 00:15, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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