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: ''You'' are edit warring, please read [[WP:BURDEN]]/[[WP:NOCON]]. If you insist on adding material to a long standing version of the lead without discussion when there is opposition you might get blocked. You do not fix [[WP:NPOV]] with [[WP:UNDUE]], and [[WP:RS]] is not [[WP:UNDUE]]. Since you failed to discuss your proposed additions in the tp I will start a section there so we and uninvolved editors can discuss them.[[User:Saturnalia0|Saturnalia0]] ([[User talk:Saturnalia0#top|talk]]) 11:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC) |
: ''You'' are edit warring, please read [[WP:BURDEN]]/[[WP:NOCON]]. If you insist on adding material to a long standing version of the lead without discussion when there is opposition you might get blocked. You do not fix [[WP:NPOV]] with [[WP:UNDUE]], and [[WP:RS]] is not [[WP:UNDUE]]. Since you failed to discuss your proposed additions in the tp I will start a section there so we and uninvolved editors can discuss them.[[User:Saturnalia0|Saturnalia0]] ([[User talk:Saturnalia0#top|talk]]) 11:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC) |
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'''Being involved in an edit war can result in your being [[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked from editing]]'''—especially if you violate the [[Wikipedia:Edit warring#The three-revert rule|three-revert rule]], which states that an editor must not perform more than three [[Help:Reverting|reverts]] on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—'''even if you don't violate the three-revert rule'''—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.<!-- Template:uw-3rr --> [[User:Elinruby|Elinruby]] ([[User talk:Elinruby|talk]]) 17:30, 13 April 2017 (UTC) |
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O'Keefe article
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.
Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:
- Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made.
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.
Please undo your most recent reinsertion of disputed content and seek consensus on the article talk page. SPECIFICO talk 17:58, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
THANKS SPECIFICO talk 18:28, 20 January 2017 (UTC)
proxy block
Saturnalia0 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. This is a residential IP address and belongs to NET (telecommunications), which serves dynamic IP addresses for their clients. I rarely post from this location so it doesn't affect me that much but others who happen to receive this address in the future might get blocked with no reason Saturnalia0 (talk) 00:36, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Decline reason:
Procedural decline; you need to provide your IP address so we can investigate. WhatIsMyIP will let you know your IP address. Yamla (talk) 13:36, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
Saturnalia0 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. This is a residential IP address and belongs to NET (telecommunications), which serves dynamic IP addresses for their clients. I rarely post from this location so it doesn't affect me that much but others who happen to receive this address in the future might get blocked with no reasonSaturnalia0 (talk) 14:11, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Accept reason:
That IP address belongs to virtua.com.br and appears to be a hosting service. Although it's no longer running an open proxy on the port for which it was blocked, it is now running what appears to be an open proxy on port 5566. It's quite possible this could change quickly, though, so it's worth the next reviewer double-checking. --Yamla (talk) 14:14, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Reference errors on 8 February
Hello, I'm ReferenceBot. I have automatically detected that an edit performed by you may have introduced errors in referencing. It is as follows:
- On the WikiLeaks page, your edit caused a broken reference name (help). ( | )
Please check this page and fix the errors highlighted. If you think this is a false positive, you can . Thanks, ReferenceBot (talk) 00:31, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
The section explains the ways how an user can interact with the website. It is not so trivial. If you feel it has too many links to other websites, do remove the links, not the list. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.230.146.228 (talk) 16:19, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
- It's not that. As the original remover explained, the section did not conform to policy (see WP:NOTHOWTO). The burden to adequate content to policy is on the user who wishes to add it. It suffices to rewrite the section, see the aforelinked page on how to do so. Saturnalia0 (talk) 17:55, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
proxy block
Saturnalia0 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Caught by an open proxy block but this host or IP is not an open proxy. This is a residential IP address - 191.187.242.227 - and belongs to NET (telecommunications), which serves dynamic IP addresses for their clients. This is the same request I have made in the past for a different IP address belonging to the same company.
Accept reason:
- I have asked for a proxy check. The UTRS request has been closed as a duplicate of this request. Just Chilling (talk) 15:42, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Saturnalia0 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • autoblocks • contribs • deleted contribs • abuse filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
UTRS appeal #17692 was submitted on Mar 06, 2017 11:10:27. This review is now closed.
--UTRSBot (talk) 11:10, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
Lula approval rating
I don't recall where I got the numbers from. It was probably from the CNT website, where there's a PDF report of every public opinion poll they have published since 1998. It's currently out of air, but you can find a cached copy here. The result of the last CNT/Sensus poll before President Lula left office (on December 2010) can be found in Brazilian news sites, such as this. I also found a chart comprising results of the Datafolha poll from 2007 to 2010 - its results are slightly different though and it does not cover the last months of his administration (But the source is reliable). To be honest with you I didn't remember I made this chart at all, but I'm glad it's still resonating after all these years. -- Rodrigogomesonetwo (talk) 04:46, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you! I'll take a look at the sources and add them if matching. Saturnalia0 (talk) 18:06, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
Help with an editor?
Hi! I am working with a student editor who speaks English as a second language. I believe that she is a native speaker of Portuguese and would greatly benefit from someone who is fluent in this language, as they could help explain some of the more technical aspects of Wikipedia editing and content that may not be as easy to understand. I know that guidelines can be difficult to wrap your head around even if you're a native English speaker, having it as a second language may just make it that much more confusing.
Would you be able to help with the editor? Their name is Efreitas2 and I would be absolutely grateful if you could help with this. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 22:44, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Shalor (Wiki Ed), I'd be glad to help, but I speak Brazilian Portuguese, I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for. I'm not a linguist and I have no experience with other variants - Portuguese or African. Also keep in mind I'm a relatively new user myself. Saturnalia0 (talk) 00:08, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- I think that she's Brazilian per her last name, but I'm not sure yet. I was a little concerned that you're fairly new here, so if you don't feel comfortable doing this, then please don't feel pressured to step in! I don't want you to do something that you may not be 100% familiar with yet. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:14, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Shalor (Wiki Ed), I know the basic policies and I'm always looking to learn more, I think I'd be able to help and that it could be a good experience for me as well. Hit me up if you need anything. By the way I'm not familiar with WikiEdu, I skimmed through some links but I could only find information about educators - I assume that's your role. If there's anything you need me to read or do before I can help you, send me the links. Saturnalia0 (talk) 00:32, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- WikiEd is the educational wing of Wikipedia and we work with teachers (typically college professors) who are incorporating editing Wikipedia into their lesson plan. I'm going to check with the teacher to verify her language and if she does speak Brazilian Portuguese, I'm going to see if there are any areas of particular concern for her that maybe you can rephrase in Portuguese for her. As far as what to read, I would say that the best things would just be to brush up on the basics if there's anything you're unsure of or are rusty with. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:36, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- Will do. Saturnalia0 (talk) 00:39, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- It looks like I jumped the gun - it looks like she doesn't speak Portuguese. Thank you so much for being willing to help though! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 01:48, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
April 2017
Hello, I'm Drmies. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to H3h3Productions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:32, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
- Hi Drmies, I proposed an alternative version on the talk page which I believe to be satisfactory, please take a look. We can proceed with this discussion there. Thanks. Saturnalia0 (talk) 02:51, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
please cease edit warring on Impeachment of Dilma Rousseff
This is not UNDUE -- the article is still overwhelmingly defamatory and the sources in the paragraph are highly respected RS. The alternative to including what Rousseff has to say is deleting the entire article as an egregious violation of the BLP policy. I am inclined to take this route if you continue. The article has already been through the NPOV board and I am simple implementing consensus Elinruby (talk) 10:52, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard/Archive_64#impeachment_of_Dilma_Rousseff. If you disagree with a specific edit, please make use of the talk page, or I'll just throw up my hands, stop trying to work with you-all, and tag it as an attack page which it definitely was and probably still is despite my heroic efforts to make an acceptable article of it. I am restoring the sourced material (again). If you have a specific issue with the material please discuss. This is not going to stay on en.wikipedia in its present form, period. Elinruby (talk) 11:16, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
- You are edit warring, please read WP:BURDEN/WP:NOCON. If you insist on adding material to a long standing version of the lead without discussion when there is opposition you might get blocked. You do not fix WP:NPOV with WP:UNDUE, and WP:RS is not WP:UNDUE. Since you failed to discuss your proposed additions in the tp I will start a section there so we and uninvolved editors can discuss them.Saturnalia0 (talk) 11:21, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
Your recent editing history shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See BRD for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.
Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Elinruby (talk) 17:30, 13 April 2017 (UTC)