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[[Image:Stop hand nuvola.svg|30px|alt=|link=]] This is your '''last warning'''; the next time you violate Wikipedia's [[Wikipedia:No original research|no original research policy]] by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at [[:Walking with Dinosaurs]], you may be '''[[Wikipedia:Blocking policy|blocked]] from editing without further notice'''. <!-- Template:uw-nor4 --> [[User:Orangemarlin|<font color="orange">'''Orange'''</font><font color="teal">'''Marlin'''</font>]] <small><sup>[[User talk:Orangemarlin|Talk•]] [[Special:Contributions/Orangemarlin|Contributions]]</sup></small> 03:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC) |
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before the question. Again, welcome! J. Spencer (talk) 22:38, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Carnian Coelophysis
Hello, Raptor Red;
Ghost Ranch (Whitaker Quarry) is simply not considered to be Carnian in age any more. For example, if you search on "Ghost Ranch" (one term) and Rhaetian in Google you will get some flavor of the issue; the first page of results alone gets seven papers published in the last 10 years. It is also worth your time to check Chinleana, the blog of Petrified Forest National Park paleontologist William Parker. J. Spencer (talk) 22:38, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
- You asked on my page "If the comment you posted on my talk about Coelophysis no longer being Carnian, then what age is the Petrified Forest one? And why does the book for Walking with Dinosaurs say that it lived 222-215 million years ago?"
- The answers to both of your questions are related, but I'll need to lay down some groundwork first.
- First, the formation(s) of the Late Triassic in the American Southwest have had a complicated history. In Arizona and New Mexico, there is the traditional Chinle Formation. Researchers from the New Mexico Museum of Natural History & Science prefer to have the Chinle as a group and its internal divisions as formations, while researchers associated with Petrified Forest National Park prefer the traditional Chinle Formation with divisions as members. The main upshot for our purposes is that some papers call the Arizona Coelophysis sites the Painted Desert Member of the Petrified Forest Formation, and the Ghost Ranch site the Rock Point Formation, while others call the Arizona sites the Petrified Forest Member of the Chinle Formation and are not entirely sure about Ghost Ranch (you might see "siltstone member"). This is important if you get into the literature. Some of this can be found in a paper published this spring about Petrified Forest National Park, freely available here (see especially the figure on p. 4).
- Second, the Carnian and Norian have been substantially refined in age over the last decade. As the paper linked above notes on p. 7, the Carnian-Norian boundary used to be at 216 Ma (million years ago), and the Norian-Rhaetian boundary at 203 Ma. More recent work on the stages puts the Carnian-Norian boundary at ~228 Ma and the Norian-Rhaetian boundary at between 210 and 207 Ma. This makes the Norian substantially longer.
- Third, the Petrified Forest specimen of Coelophysis comes from the Painted Desert Member of the Petrified Forest Formation or the Petrified Forest Member of the Chinle Formation, depending on whose side of the name battle you're on. See here for more. (There are a few other possible specimens from the park as well). The age of this rock unit is younger than 219.2 Ma (the age of the base of the Blue Mesa Member, two members down using the National Park names), and around 213 to 211 Ma at its top; see p. 8 of the first paper I linked. These dates were produced recently, and previously the Chinle was assumed to be a few million years older. Thus, the Park's Coelophysis lived sometime between about 219 and 211 Ma, closer to the young end because the older date is from much lower rocks. By the old definitions of the Carnian and Norian, this is late Carnian-early Norian, but by the new definitions, it is middle to late Norian.
- Of course, the Walking With Dinosaurs book is doubtless using older information, because it was published before a lot of this work.
- Now, the age of the Ghost Ranch Coelophysis is trickier, because the correlations of the rocks are still questionable. The Whitaker Quarry could be late Norian, Rhaetian, or even earliest Jurassic. J. Spencer (talk) 00:31, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
- Placerias is known primarily from the Placerias Quarry, which is from the Bluewater Creek Formation of the Chinle Group (New Mexico Museum) or Mesa Redondo Member of the Chinle Formation (Petrified Forest NP), which in either case is the unit under the Blue Mesa. It is also known from the Blue Mesa. Since the base of the Blue Mesa is about 219 Ma, Placerias probably ranged for a few million years before and after. Under the old Carnian-Norian, it would have a late Carnian range, but under the new Carnian-Norian, it would have roughly a late early Norian-middle Norian range. Interestingly, Coelophysis is not known to have coexisted with Placerias (the middle of the Chinle had turnover with a lot of its vertebrates), but there was a Coelophysis-like dinosaur (Camposaurus) found at the Placerias Quarry. J. Spencer (talk) 22:45, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
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You have to realize that a fact is a fact because there is evidence in the real world that verifies it as being true, and not because you say it's a fact. As such, the claims that Gorgonops and Scutosaurus lived together, or that Gorgonops could migrate from South Africa to Siberia are false because there is no evidence to verify these claims as being true. Please read Wikipedia:Original Research and Wikipedia:Synthesis]. I hope you understand what I am trying to tell you.--Mr Fink (talk) 02:27, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
- There are different genera of gorgonopsid around the world. Simply because Inostrancevia is a Siberian gorgonopsid does not mean that Gorgonops was able to migrate to Siberia, and it definitely does not give you the authority to say that.--Mr Fink (talk) 04:09, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
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Ornitholestes
You should read Gregory S. Pauls' newest book, Field Guide to Dinosaurs. Even the guy who came up with the idea of a horn on Ornitholestes doesn't believe in it anymore (page 123). This isn't some wild theory of Carpenter's, it's an accepted fact. MMartyniuk (talk) 23:32, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
- It's not a theory, it's an observation. They found out by examining the bone. There's a big difference between a horn or crest, and a price of normal skull bone broken into an upwards position. Greg Paul's mistaken interpretation (based on a photo I think, not even the actual specimen) only became popular because he unfortunately published it in a very popular book. MMartyniuk (talk) 23:41, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
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Please Stop Introducing Original Research
Please stop trying to introduce Original Research and inappropriate Synthesis into articles. I keep telling you, just because you say so does not make it evidence. Furthermore, you seem to be unaware that Laurasia had already been divided by the Atlantic Ocean at the start of the Early Cretaceous, and that Western North America, where Utahraptor was endemic to was split off from Eastern North America by the Niobraran Sea, so if Utahraptor wanted to go eat an Iguanodon, it would have to cross both the Atlantic, and the Niobraran.--Mr Fink (talk) 13:40, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
- It's not my responsibility to prove your claims: it is actually your responsibility to provide actual evidence to your claims, which you have not been doing, and is why your edits keep getting reverted.--Mr Fink (talk) 23:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
February 2011
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at King Cobra, you may be blocked from editing. Mokele (talk) 21:26, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi Raptor Red, I noticed your edits to the Walking with Dinosaurs article. I'm not sure that information is entirely accurate, and have started a discussion on the article talk page, Talk:Walking with Dinosaurs. I invite you to discuss the issues there. In the mean time, I have removed the material from the article. Let me know if you have any questions or concerns. --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:14, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Again, please discuss the matter on the talk page. If we can come to a consensus to do so, then we will add the material back to the article. Thanks, --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:18, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- I saw your edit to the Raptor Red article. Please note it is entirely inappropriate to introduce speculation, no matter how well founded, into an article. This is one of the key policies on Wikipedia. Do let me know if you have any questions about it. Thanks, --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the note, I saw that you mentioned that it was in the book, so I left it. Thanks again and let me know if anything comes up. Best wishes, --TeaDrinker (talk) 22:48, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
- I saw your edit to the Raptor Red article. Please note it is entirely inappropriate to introduce speculation, no matter how well founded, into an article. This is one of the key policies on Wikipedia. Do let me know if you have any questions about it. Thanks, --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:56, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
I have protected the Walking with Dinosaurs page to prevent further edit warring. I would strongly encourage you to conclude the discussion on the article's talk page before making any other edits. This does not mean leaving an obscure message and reverting, it means having a full discussion and developing a consensus with you fellow editors on what is included. I take no position in your content dispute, but I would also encourage you to, once again, read our policy on original research. This policy dictates, unambiguously, that you may not insert your own commentary or conclusions into an article without very specific references. If you are still confused about this, please ask for clarification. If you continue to edit war after the protection ends, it is possible that this account can be temporarily disabled to prevent disruption. Kuru (talk) 15:08, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
I see from your talk I'm not the only person who has an issue with you introducing unverified or unsourced material, so I'll cut to the chase: please desist, or you may find yourself blocked for disruptive editing. See WP:V and WP:RS before continuing to add material and edit-warring to keep it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 17:52, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
The taxonomic identity of the White Dactyl is never explicitly identified in the novel. A flock of pterosaurs identified as Ornithocheirus attempts to scavenge the Astrodon carcass after the death of Red's first mate but nowhere is it stated that they are the same species/genus as the White Dactyl character. Ozraptor4 (talk) 08:52, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
Final warning
This is your last warning; the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. I'm sorry that I was not clear enough earlier. The next time you insert your own commentary and edit war to keep it in an article, you will be blocked. Kuru (talk) 02:59, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
April 2011
This is your last warning; the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Placerias, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 05:21, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
This is your last warning; the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Animal Armageddon, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 05:23, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
This is your last warning; the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Walking with Dinosaurs, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 15:38, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
Corris No.9
A link to a photo of the loco has now been added to the article, so please stop deleting correct information. RGCorris (talk) 16:15, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
This is your last warning; the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at The Princess and the Frog, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. McDoobAU93 03:37, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
This is your last warning; the next time you violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by inserting unpublished information or your personal analysis into an article, as you did at Walking with Dinosaurs, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 03:44, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Walking with dinosarus. Users are expected to collaborate with others and avoid editing disruptively.
In particular, the three-revert rule states that:
- Making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period is almost always grounds for an immediate block.
- Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.
If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you continue to edit war, you may be blocked from editing without further notice. OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 03:59, 13 April 2011 (UTC)