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Can I just say that I find it mildly amusing that the last time there was a big fat edit war on this article, you and I (among others) were criticized for allowing ''any'' mention of speculation about his sexual orientation into the article, now we're being criticized for not allowing ''more'' speculation? My, how times change. [[User:Hermione1980|H]][[User:Hermione1980|<font color="green">''e''</font>]][[User:Hermione1980|rmione]]'''[[User talk:Hermione1980|1980]]''' 20:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC) |
Can I just say that I find it mildly amusing that the last time there was a big fat edit war on this article, you and I (among others) were criticized for allowing ''any'' mention of speculation about his sexual orientation into the article, now we're being criticized for not allowing ''more'' speculation? My, how times change. [[User:Hermione1980|H]][[User:Hermione1980|<font color="green">''e''</font>]][[User:Hermione1980|rmione]]'''[[User talk:Hermione1980|1980]]''' 20:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC) |
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Littlefield Fountain - which goes to show there is more than one way to make use of a picture. Johntex\talk 20:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- You are the best! That is a fantastic new article. Did you see the picture is also at Pompeo Coppini? Johntex\talk 21:39, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Battle of Tours
Katefan0[[User talk:Katefan0|Sorry I failed to properly remove comments I regretted making on your page. I understand now not to. Kate, would you and Johntexwould you go look at Pig's latest nice comments about me on the Battle of Tours talk page, and please, archieve them, or him, or whatever. Whatever my faults are -- and I am learning I have more than I thought! -- I at least sign my name! old windy bear 01:13, 17 January 2006 (UTC),,
- Hello Kate, I looked into Talk:Battle of Tours. An anonymous user did indeed say some horrible things about Oldwinderbear. I deleted those comments and blocked the anonymous user (who had made only 1 other Wikipedia edit, also to a talk page) for 24 hours. Johntex\talk 03:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for looking into it -- I just now logged onto WP and saw Oldwindybear's message, and was headed over there myself. (Have been watching bad reality TV this evening =D) Thanks for being a good shepherd! I'll add the article to my watchlist in case the anon decides he wants to cause more trouble after the 24 hour block expires. Katefan0(scribble)/mrp 03:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Katefan0Hi Kate! When you get time, would you look at the changes I made on the Frank Hamer article? Mt stepson is taking me to the library fo congress this week to get more, but I tried to do two things that you found needed doing: 1) make the language far more neutral, and merely report facts as recorded; 2) add specific sources -- for instance, the specific instructions to kill Bonnie and Clyde without warning were Frank Hamer's, and some of the other posse had questioned that, according to the book by Ted Hinton, one of the posse, (and probably the one who wrote the best account fo the ambush itself) SO I added Ted Hinton in the article as the source for the shoot to kill plans, and Hamer's shouting "shoot!" (when the car drove up, and others had asked aloud about a surrender) Anyway, I would appreciate your looking at the article, and seeing if it is improved. Thanks! Hope you have having a good day! old windy bear 14:11, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Katefan0Kate, I am delighted to report that Doug removed the tag from the Battle of Tours tonight, and promised to leave me a list of suggestions for some remaining language changes. I will take care of that immediately. I have not heard from you on the Tudor article -- was my section addition okay? I liked it, but the really important question is: did you? In the interim, is there anything else I can help with? More changes have been made to the Hamer article, removing language that could not be sourced with exactitude, et al. It is coming along. I am working with Palm dogg on some battle boxes. If you have anything else you think I could help with, I would welcome the work. THANKS, old windy bear 03:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
consensus?
you might want to check the definition of consensus....
A consensual agreement or win-win outcome of collaborative problem-solving and conflict resolution. A consensus implies that debate has taken place, the solution is generally accepted rather than a grudging compromise, and that agreement is deep-rooted enough that it can stand for some time without need to revisit the issue. [1]
Justforasecond 04:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
consensus check
"Consensus reached" does not mean "majority spoken". The idea is to make an article that won't have a seemingly-neverending debate on it. I've tried to propose a means for reaching a consensus -- a simple, objective test for what should be included.
As for meeting the consensus definition...the SLA removal was
- never generally agreed upon
- not deep-rooted enough to stand for some time...as we're revisiting already :)
Cheery-o Justforasecond 05:06, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I'm trying to find a test for what should go on a page. A practical, objective test. Isn't that reasonable?
Justforasecond 05:14, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
It is sometimes useful...
...to point people to Wikipedia:Consensus. --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 06:07, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Skywalker
Mr. Skywalker is gearing up to gather together all the people who have ever disagreed with me into one big disorganized lump to write up what appears to be either RFC or RFAr. I thought you should be made aware. Hipocrite - «Talk» 13:09, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Hipcrote
He is stalking me, following me wherever I go. All I was doing is opening for suggestions on Hipocrite un-willingness to compromise and being a NPOV warrior is hampering the efforts of many. He goes around claiming NPOV to everyone and is very hostile and aggressive. I provided sources and he still is claming NPOV. He keeps Revert all of m,y work for no reason. I'm going to get in touch with the administrators board. Anakinskywalker 15:17, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'm requesting a lock on the University of Ottawa article page until the there is a settlement on the outstanding issues. Hipocrite is being biased again, and forcing statements into the article, and with no negotiations. He is not willing to negotiating at all ,and I want a block on the page please, and for it to be referred for arbitration or the administrators board.
Anakinskywalker 15:31, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
3RR Block
Hypocrite has made 3 reverts of material and I'm requesting a block. The University of Ottawa article history is the source. Anakinskywalker 19:01, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
You are playing favourites. I'm calling you on that. I have provided proof. Unless you guys sources to back your claims, what case do you have? Anakinskywalker 19:15, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
You won't do it because you are playing favourites. Don't worry, I know how it goes around here. People who edit alot and group together and support one another. Don't worry, I'll just leave wikipedia. It's funny ...I'm going into my masters at McGill, and you guys will be here ganging up on other users. Bravo.... Anakinskywalker 19:21, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Yet another new UT article
I have started Main Building of the University of Texas at Austin, and it awaits your edits. With all of the new UT articles popping up recently, what do you think about the possibility of organizing a WikiProject or collaboration about the University? Please let me know! — Scm83x talk 10:16, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for contributing to this article! I'm really excited about the possibilities for this and all UT articles. With all of those news stories about the Tower on that page in the external links, I think there is enough content for a fantastic article. See you out there... Hook 'em! — Scm83x talk 20:00, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Abramoff vandalism again
Hi, sorry to bother you. If I recall, you protected the Jack Abramoff page by not letting anonymous users edit it. This was fantastic. (Is it still in effect?). Can you now do the same for Jack Abramoff lobbying and corruption scandal? And, while you're at it, check out the edits of 67.163.250.244, who's been vandalizing other pages, too, with profanity, etc. Thanks! Sholom 15:14, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Your RfC
Hi, Katefan0. Thanks for your friendly message on my talk page before my wiki-break. Unfortately, I'm not making many apple turnovers even for myself, as I'm following the programme of a very strict nutritionist. I haven't had any chocolate or coffee since October, and although I made this at Christmas, I wasn't allowed to eat any!
I would have signed Robert McClenon's response to your RfC (I note that you didn't write a response), but after oldwindybear said that you were right, I didn't think it would be very nice to do so, and would be unncecssary — a bit like piling on the oppose votes! It was I who removed the link from the RfC page. The 48 hours have passed now, so I could delete it, but I thought I'd ask you first, as I know that sometimes people have chosen to have uncertified RfCs archived rather than deleted. I know that it's not considered proper for the subject of an RfC to perform the deletion him/herself. Let me know what you'd like me to do. Cheers, AnnH (talk) 21:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Check Your E-Mail, Please
I left you a message that I need some help with. Thanks. --badlydrawnjeff 23:22, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! --badlydrawnjeff 03:15, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
In response to your comment: Please don't add messages to this or any other article that make it appear that it's been protected against editing when it in fact has not. Thanks. · Katefan0(scribble)/mrp 01:10, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sorry? ...appear that it's been protected against editing when it has not.. ? According to protection log for Jack Abramoff, the page it was protected until: 22:53, 19 January 2006, my notice was added 06:49, 19 January 2006, several hours before you lifted the protection. Please delete the talk page you created on my user page. -sf 13:04, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks...
...for the fix on the vandalism. My only regret is he/she never got the chance to fully format the picture/caption properly, so I could see what it was supposed to look like in its final form. Maybe next time.
Have a great day,
Paul (sorry my sig ain't workin' too well)
Kate, apologies for misusing protect page
But there has got to be somewhere I can go with this complaint. can you advise? I requested protection of a specific version because it was being blanked and redirected while it was under discussion at deletion review. The same admin was was doing the blanking and redirecting then protected the blank and redirect version. Can't someone do something here? Phantasmo 20:19, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Houston, Texas
Please come to the talk page of the Houston, Texas article. There is an ongoing discussion as a user is challenging the neutrality of the article. Thanks! RJN 00:42, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Few new articles you may want to nominate or improve
Just thought you'd want to know. Care ... Benjamin Gatti 05:44, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Wonder if I could ask you a favor? The newly added criticisms section in this article is a bunch of unsourced assertions with no POV balance. Strangely it's all criticism from within the Green Party (i.e. Cobbite), and hardly any of the criticism from the right, which would be his main political opponents and most vehement detractors. I'm betting most of it should be taken to with a chainsaw, but I politely asked the contributor for some sources a few days ago. Much of it reads like a personal essay. All I got was a slightly worse rewrite with inline links to another article he wrote, no references, (not even for the direct Reagan quote). I hear I may be a little busy in the coming weeks, so I wonder if I could burden you with this instead of me? :-) Thanks. Dmcdevit·t 07:12, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
can you e-mailour e-mail ? Thanks, Zeq 07:23, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
RfA Thanks
tudor
userKatefan0 Hi Kate, more work on Frank Hamer, more sourcing, sent for yet another book, it will be done in the next week or so though to your satisfaction. Tours - Palm dogg worked with me -- is completely rewritten, and the complaining user has not answered repeated requests to look at it, for removal of the tag. Remember that he agreed completely with the conclusions, just wanted them reworded to be more factual, and if you look, it is completely rewritten, reworded, and reorganized, and I think you will be able to remove the tag. Did you check my section on Margarat Tudor's life on her time as Regent, et al? I think it really changes the tone of the article. Palm dogg and I are also working on battleboxes (I make up the lists, he puts them in the box!) for Charlamagne, Belisarius, and Subutai. Anything else you think I could work on right now? I put in for the military coordinators project, but just don't have the votes. I wish I had had them, I believe I could have helped. Oh well, I will find things, or ask you to direct me to things, to help with! Hope you are having a good weekend! old windy bear 20:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
I also have begun work on a draft on Mary Tudor, on her political activities, and I think you will find it interesting, and hopefully helpful in expanding on her as a person, and one who was more active than the present article leds one to believe in the politics of England. She definately attempted to intervene and influence not just the royal family, but the events of the day - I should have the information, which can be put in a couple of paragraphs finished by thursday or so, and you can review, and hopefully it will expand on her as a person, and a person of place and power other than who she married, et al. I would also, at some point, like to do something similiar with the Mongol Empire. After the deaths of Mangu, Ögedei, and Guyuk there were all regencies which were, as I recollect, under women. The regency of Toregene Khatun, the widow of Ogedei, lasted almost 5 years! Yet there is relatively little about her in our history of the empire, though during her regency Europe was spared Mongol conquest because of the recall of Batu Khan in the standard recall of all Princes of the Blood for a kurultai to elect a new Khan. Since most fo the Princes tended to take most of their armies with them -- by then there was already infighting and great distrust! -- Europe was spared. The point I am trying to make is that I think all too often we unjustly define women solely by their marriages. Sometimes this is accurate -- medevial rulers tended to use daughters as poltiical tender! But in the case of Toregene Khatun and others, (including to some extent Mary Tudor!) this is simply not so. Hope you are having a good day, and will like what I am putting together on Mary. old windy bear 01:52, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
userKatefan0 thanks for the words on the complaint on the Battle of Tours. I am NOT engaged in any personal arguments - he forgot he was doing the same at the time -- and am dedicated to real contributions only. I wrote a massively sourced reply, but have more. That battle is in my realm of expertise, and I can source every word in it, literally. I did apologize to him for offending him, as I am determined to make a real and meaningful contribution, with no arguments. By the way, I got my Tudor book, and will be putting something on that site tomorrow. Did you know during her regency in Scotland how the nobles tried to get rid of her, (and did at the first excuse) for espousing english interests over Scottish. It is that kind of real political involvement I think you are looking for to show she was more than the wife of three men, and the pathway by which kings were born, lol.old windy bear 22:10, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Trigger happy?
I realize it is not easy to simplify and clarify NPOV, but I rather liked my version. The section I want deleted is redundant. How about an explanation? Wikipedia talk:Neutral point of view Bensaccount 23:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Ikea'ed
Sure the breakfasts are a dollar, A DOLLAR! but there's no napkins, at all!
Reminded me of a story I heard about how McDonalds' kept opening restaurants (so they call 'em) in Lappland, and they kept on going bust. Until somebody figured out that the Sami didn't like finger food. The next McDonalds' to open gave out plastic cutlery with the Big Macs, and all went well...
Economics416 is Anakinskywalker
Note that this new user is editing with exactly the same style on User Ardenn’s talk page as User:Anakinskywalker used to use on the University of Ottawa talk page. He is also POV pushing the same stuff on the University of Ottawa page. David D. (Talk) 23:17, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for protecting the pages Lost and LOST. Even though the anon's comment was snarky and hostile, I suppose that the mere fact that he or she made a comment is a sort of progress over the silent edit war we had beforehand.
One small thing — you redirected LOST to Lost (disambiguation), which is itself a redirect to Lost. Did you mean to create a double redirect, or was that a mistake? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:54, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Please unprotect LOST, you have NO basis for doing so. Tskoge 10:00, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
- Looks like the consensus is to have the disambiguation content at Lost and have LOST as a redirect to Lost (TV series) — just like it was before all this mess started. I guess it's time to unlock the pages and see if the anon has gotten the message. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 01:41, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
EdHalstram
Thanks for the block – that was getting tiresome.
Here's a cat for you
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Tonywalton | Talk 17:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
I've created a fairly simple Wikipedia:Welsh Wikipedians' notice board (shortcut WP:WWNB) to try to get things started. Please have a look and consider signing on, adding it to your watchlist and helping to make sure any users with an interest in the subject know about it. Also please feel free to add things and to change anything you feel needs changing – I'm not under the impression that I own it! Rhion 19:46, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
unprotection of computer science
why did you unprotect computer science against a strong concensus on the talk page to keep it protected? Cheers, —Ruud 23:19, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
from Charles Whitman
Help me understand this Kate
Subwayjack
At least he's ... creative. He's been sending me hateful stuff too, if that makes you feel any better. He's blocked right now for 2 weeks; personally, I think that if he comes back and continues behaving this way I will consider blocking him indef and submitting it to the community for review. There is precedent for the community to indef block someone without going through arbcom, if the case is egregious enough, which this one might be -- depending on how he behaves when he returns. · Katefan0(scribble)/mrp 02:33, 13 January 2006 (UTC) Haha, I suppose we have have to give him credit there. He follows this stuff pretty closely, though; he's the interviewee from the Daily Texan article here. Looking forward to two weeks from now! Hook 'em! -Rebelguys2 02:38, 13 January 2006 (UTC)subwayjack 01:51, 29 January 2006 (UTC)S
- It means I was of the opinion that you are a disruptive user, but was giving you the benefit of the doubt going forward, depending on how you behaved after your block expired. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 02:38, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
That opinion may be a fair one, depending of course, which side of the fence you are on at this moment. But would it be fair of me to have the opinion that since your Alma Mater is UT, you might be bias in your opinion? Would it be fair to say that corresponding in another UT users talk page about me and the potential indef block based on an uncommon precedent may be interpreted as collusion? Would it be fair of me to have the opinion that you wield your power in favor of UT contributors and dismiss others by being on the fence? Would it be unfair of me to say that a "Vanity Book" with limited scope and personal motivation, by a self-published author from Texas gets preferential treatment and inclusion over a self-produced CD publication that deals strictly with the UT Tower and Charles Whitman? Help me out with these dilema's Kate, it's hard balancing the fairness up on this fence!subwayjack 05:29, 29 January 2006 (UTC)S
- I'll be glad to discuss article content with you. I have nothing to say to the rest of it. If you still feel the need to continue this line of discussion, please use my talk page instead of dumping this kind of thing here. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 05:46, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
No thanks! The "dumping" reference tells me what I can expect. Thanks anyways!subwayjack 06:31, 29 January 2006 (UTC)S
Since you actually work along these guys...
You might be interested in reading what's going on in the Administrators' noticeboard. And by the way...
Titoxd(?!? - help us) 02:10, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Woohoo!
[2]. It's a tool that shows the articles that are semi protected. Awesome. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 04:58, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
- Oi. Apparently there's a few articles that were SP but that didn't have a tag. Sigh. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 05:03, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Pat
Pat has just been through motorized bicycle adding {fact} tags to a dozen or so paragraphs plus added two more top-level tags to it. This has gone beyond a joke, he is clearly in violation of WP:POINT but since I'm in active dispute with him I won't block him. Have a look how he left it this time: [3]. My reserves of patience are temporarily exhausted. - Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] AfD? 16:41, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Sigh
This edit was almost too amusing to revert. *Sigh* The burden of responsibility. Johntex\talk 18:45, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Wikistress
He's concerned about your Wikistress. He thinks that you should go and play with Smokey and forget about the stupid humans. Guettarda 01:04, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Not quite sure why you protected lolicon now, edit war is over a year old and we ARE trying to work it out in the talk. (not that it is getting anywhere...) I'd suggest u unprotect since the version you protected is in fact the one LEAST likely to get consensus. Mikkerpikker ... 16:37, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- THE WRONG VERSION, KATE! DID YOU HEAR ME! THE WRONG VERSION! Actually, in this case, I think that ones the most likley to get sign off from all parties in about a week. Hipocrite - «Talk»
- Thanks for your message Katefan, I'd still urge unprotection, but, whatever... we'll see. As for all parties signing off on "this version" right, because Hipocrite is an expert on that having edited lolicon for a whole of 1 days now [4] & talk:lolicon for 2 days [5]. Mmmmmm... Mikkerpikker ... 17:10, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
- As one of the many assholes involved in the Lolicon Edit War or LEW for short, I requesteth unto ye to make one small change: the second picture (the Hiyashibara manga cover) should be placed on the left side because the sections are a bit out of joint and don't wrap correctly in their current state. Thank you. Sweetfreek 23:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Clerking
Sure thing. It was only after posting that that I realized comments had been made that they were effectively done selecting, for now. But they did indicate a few more had been approved and not yet activated, so we'll see. Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 21:27, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Kitties
You're very welcome. Tonywalton | Talk 17:33, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Learning
As to the Lolicon article, would you feel it wrong if I added Gothic Lolita and Lolita fashion in the 'see also' section? The change is unrelated to the conflict at hand. As an admin, I can edit it; however I'm still interpreting the policy, and won't proceed until I am certain. I'm trying to fill the gaps in my knowledge as an administrator and am curious as to what your thoughts might be on this. --DanielCD 22:36, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
- Pardon me for butting in, but I don't see the connection, except for the term "Lolita". Neither of those articles link back to "Lolicon". -Will Beback 02:23, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- That's fine. I'm still curious though. I'll add a link to Lolicon and see if any sparks fly. --DanielCD 02:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- There is a connection, if somewhat superficial. Commercialization of children's sexuality, perhaps. Seems like it would work to me (and pardon me for butting in, as well).--Sean Black (talk) 02:40, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- That's fine. I'm still curious though. I'll add a link to Lolicon and see if any sparks fly. --DanielCD 02:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- My interest was mainly in protocol regarding editing locked pages. I think I've gotten my answer though: if it's a minor edit, it can probably just wait. This kinda differs the decision to the individual (regarding minor changes). --DanielCD 02:49, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, but I never pass up the opportunity to post on someone else's talk page. :)--Sean Black (talk) 03:00, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Woo! Party on my talk page! Daniel, my impression is that it probably ought to just wait, unless it's something glaringly wrong like a typo, vandalous information, or strange formatting error. After all, "regular" editors can't do small edits to protected pages. It's not nearly as big a deal as, say, editing some sort of disputed information with your administrator privileges, but it still broadcasts an inequality that probably isn't the best thing to convey. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 03:35, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, but I never pass up the opportunity to post on someone else's talk page. :)--Sean Black (talk) 03:00, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- My interest was mainly in protocol regarding editing locked pages. I think I've gotten my answer though: if it's a minor edit, it can probably just wait. This kinda differs the decision to the individual (regarding minor changes). --DanielCD 02:49, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, that's kinda the conclusion I came to. BTW, the Lolicon link was snatched off the Gothic lolita page. --DanielCD 15:37, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
3RR
Howdy. I've read that you had blocked this account from editing:
- I've blocked you both for five hours for violating 3RR while edit warring with one another. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 21:56, 1 February 2006 (UTC) [6]
I believe you were mistaken when you applied the block to me for 3RR violation. It's been more than 5 hours, so it may seem like a moot issue to you -- but it is a matter of principle to me. I was very careful to not revert more than three times. I was also very careful to engage the other party in discussions on the Talk page with each of my edits on the article. When the other editor continued to revert the article a 4th time, I did not do likewise. Instead, I continued the dialog on the Talk page in an attempt to resolve differences and didn't touch the article page anymore.
Could I impose upon you to please spend a moment of your time to verify 1) I did not revert more than three times, and 2) I did stop reverting, yet continued with Talk page discussions even after the other party made a 4th revert. Thanks, 165.247.214.194 03:59, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Ooops, almost forgot... any of the 165.247.xxx.xxx edits done on the Winter Soldier Investigation article and Talk page over the past 72 hours were done by me. You probably already knew that, but just in case... 165.247.214.194 04:49, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Butting in again, I'd like to note that you are not "entitled" to three reverts per 24 hours.--Sean Black (talk) 04:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- You are very correct, Sean Black. I was not reverting because I could. I was reverting because I had met the requirements of the other editing party. My 3 reverts and his 4 reverts were nothing more than applying and removing a "Disputed" tag. He would request that I explain something before removing the tag, so I would give him his explanation and then remove the tag. Then he would reapply the tag and request sources before I could remove the tag, so I provided the sources for him and removed the tag. Then he reapplied the tag and said that he had a problem with the conclusion of one of the sources... this went on and on. I stopped bothering to remove the tag (reverting) once I noticed the other party was insistent upon keeping the tag on the article regardless of whatever hoops he was making me jump through. He continued his reverts beyond three times; I did not. I agree that I am not "entitled" to three reverts, but you must also agree that I did not "violate the 3RR" either. Why am I making such a fuss about a 5 hour block that has already expired? Because I take this very seriously; I try to respect the spirit of the policies and not just the letter of the law. 165.247.214.194 04:53, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- The three-revert rule is not an entitlement, but an "electric fence"; the 3RR is intended to stop edit wars. It does not grant users an inalienable right to three reverts every 24 hours or endorse reverts as an editing technique. Persistent reversion remains strongly discouraged and is unlikely to constitute working properly with others.
- If you find you have reverted a page more than even once in a day, it indicates there may be a problem and you should try dispute resolution, starting with the article's talk page. The fact that users may be blocked for excessive reverting does not imply that they will be blocked. Admins are under no obligation to block a user for breaking the 3RR, for instance if they see that the problem has been resolved in another manner.
- There are very plainly four reversions on the article page by 165.247*. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 05:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- I would disagree, based on the definition of reversion: "A revert is to undo all changes made after a certain time in the past. The result will be that the page becomes identical to how it used to be at some previous time." Only the last three reverts qualify, while the 4th edit isn't a revert at all, but contains several new edits. I know, I know, you would point out to me that under the definition of the Three-revert rule there is an exception in this special context, stating: "Reverting in this context means undoing the work of another editor. It does not necessarily mean going back into the page history to revert to a previous version." Ok, so that 4th edit also includes the removal of the "Disputed" tag, and that is why you are calling it a revert. But wait, that was the tag *I* reinstated myself (months ago, check the history) after thinking the other editor might just have a valid issue - so I was reverting my own tag, and not "undoing the work of another editor." I made only 3 reverts. The defense rests?
- Actually, I'm not going to fight it. I'll take the dishonor of a 5-hour block, tuck my tail between my legs, apologize and chalk it up to a lesson learned for cutting it too close to the wire in any case. 165.247.202.116 00:33, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- There are very plainly four reversions on the article page by 165.247*. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 05:06, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- If you find you have reverted a page more than even once in a day, it indicates there may be a problem and you should try dispute resolution, starting with the article's talk page. The fact that users may be blocked for excessive reverting does not imply that they will be blocked. Admins are under no obligation to block a user for breaking the 3RR, for instance if they see that the problem has been resolved in another manner.
Kate, just so you know, despite his pleas that he "tries to respect the spirit of the policies and not just the letter of the law", Rob has been found to be flagrantly abusing articles by repeatedly inserting copyvio into them and is currently part of a RfArb. DTC 22:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Kate, just so you know, despite TDC's claims that "Rob has been found to be flagrantly abusing articles...", I'm not Rob. TDC is presently part of an arbitration in which there is a unanimous vote to ban him from editing the article for a year (same article from which you blocked us.) 165.247.202.116 00:33, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
btw
Don't assume that a not-logged in user doesn't have an account. The Cunctator 05:07, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- ref [7]
WTC collapse talk
Talk:Collapse of the World Trade Center Please have a look. (at the major reversion on the talk page) There is definitely a problem. SkeenaR 11:08, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
I'm sorry to have bothered you, don't worry about it. I see now that the proper place is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents SkeenaR 11:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- That's funny, because she doesn't at all mind when I bother her!--Sean Black (talk) 20:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- It's all about what you bother me with. =D · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 01:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Katefan0, I am coming to the conclusion that making legitimate progress through discussion on Talk:Collapse of the World Trade Center is an effort in futility. I think that the proper course of action here would probably be to solicit some outside opinions. Would you be so kind as to have a look? It would be much appreciated. SkeenaR 20:21, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
WP:RFP
Could you please consider my request on Gallery of sovereign states coat of arms unprotection? User:Pirveli
- Considering now. Oh, and patience is a virtue.--Sean Black (talk) 20:46, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Abramoff Page
We want to be able to edit the Abramoff page\just the way it says on the WIK main page. That ANYONE can edit it.
We want to edit out the Jew references. The Jew baiting, Jew hating, Antisemitic inferences.
85.250.102.83 22:16, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. If you want to contribute something that isn't vandalism, that would be most welcome. Thanks. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 22:17, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Kate, We were contributing. And our edits were resonable. At some point in the discussions STUFFOFINTEREST AND MP4wav decided to change the status quo and an editing war ensued. They then went to heavy guns bringing in Admins who would shut us out altogether.
We are being treated unfairly when, and you can see this in the history, our edits were just one word: Jewish, in the "early Years" section and we changed some of the conjecture in the "organizations" section without changing the basic meaning.
Look, I read through your personal page. Anyone that plays the fiddle and likes the music that you do can't possibly be an antisemite. Isn't there ONE admin who will read through the history and take our side? ONE?
85.250.102.83 22:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Not to be a wikistalker, but I noticed this edit in RC and figured I'd comment. To the anonymous user at 85.250.102.83, there's a discussion going on in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Continuing_problem_with_anonymous_IP_on_Jack_Abramoff and that would probably be a better venue than this talk page. –Abe Dashiell (t/c) 22:36, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- It should, but I'm confused: Why does fiddle-playing automatically make it so that one is not an anti-semite? That seems like an odd criterion. Though maybe...--Sean Black (talk) 23:50, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- I'm definitely no anti-Semite, but I confess I was a little confused by that as well ... maybe ... Fiddler on the Roof? · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 01:06, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- I'm imagining Hank Williams Jr. in a yarmulke. - brenneman(t)(c) 10:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Why is Katefan0 so active the last few days? (and other philosophical questions)
Does he or she get paid to alter wiki? Is Katefan0 a Washington DC lobbyist? Because he or she seems to be deleting quite a few popular posts lately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.18.98.89 (talk • contribs)
- Hmm, intersting theory. To adress your points, in turn: She is a she, she does not get paid, as far as I know (I'd certainly like in on it if true, incidentally), and she does, as a matter of fact, live in DC. Lobbyist or no, I couldn't say, but I'm hazarding a guess no, and I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "popular posts". Additionally, she has been active the last few days. So have I. Activity level is a poor thing to base your conspiracy theories on, I would think.-Sean Black (talk) 08:24, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- You left out the fact that Wikipedia is not "Wiki." It is a wiki. Just as encyclopedia is not "book," as if the name of the medium were the name of the product in question. Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 18:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Eh? If I'm supposed to be getting paid, could somebody please fix that? ;) I'm certainly no lobbyist. I'm a reporter. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 15:09, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- They pay in beer. Haven't you been getting yours? Friday (talk) 16:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Damn it. I KNEW I shouldn't have missed the last cabal meeting. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 17:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Beer? Where? Actually, that's a good idea. It's Friday, after all. Guettarda 17:24, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Can I get paid in caffeinated beverages? I'm a teetotaller. :) Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 18:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Damn it. I KNEW I shouldn't have missed the last cabal meeting. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 17:15, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- They pay in beer. Haven't you been getting yours? Friday (talk) 16:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
On another note, why is it some people who want to force their way seem to think that having a relatively large level of activity on the net in general or Wikipedia in particular constitutes a detrimental personal attack? I once read someone's feedback on ebay who had failed to deliver goods he sold or to respond in a timely fashion, and his response to his customers was, "I don't spend all day on the 'puter like you. I have a life." (For that matter, why do people think personal attacks is a way to prove a point at all?) Jdavidb (talk • contribs) 18:56, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Jdavidb, I have utterly no idea. Most baffling to me is that my level of activity hasn't varied at all! · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 19:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Ahah!! Now we have you! That is patently untrue. January of 2006 was your busiest month ever on Wikipedia. Finally, we have conclusive proof that the cabal is evil!!! Johntex\talk 20:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- And if you continue at the pace you have set for yourself over the last 3 days, you will hit a career total of 10,000 edits this month!! Johntex\talk 21:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- <blush>It is my pleasure to expose you anytime you like.. </blush>Johntex\talk 21:28, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Don't get me started!! ;) · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 21:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- What it exposes is tha fact that you do most of your editing during the day, when you're supposed to be working/! Guettarda 21:44, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Hey, I'm working! I can't help it if people won't call me back. =) · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 21:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Oooh, expose? I've never had the pleasure, unfortunately.--Sean Black (talk) 22:59, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- You must not be doing it right. For me, wonderful things happen when I fall asleep at my keyboard from looking too hard at WP:RC. That is when all my good visions visit me!! Johntex\talk 23:02, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Oh sure, I've had fantasies- who hasn't? But it's slightly less satisfying, if you catch my drift.--Sean Black (talk) 23:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Wait a minute. Beer? When do I get my beer? I've earned it, I'm sure. Does only the Cabal get beer? Is it Cabalbeer (say it right, it sounds like cavalier) that I don't get mine? KillerChihuahua?!? 00:20, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Anon users from the Abramoff page
Dear Kate. Shalom. We want to answer your message. Hi -- listen, the way you're going about things right now isn't working, and won't ever work. Blanking pages and inserting a screed or substitute article text isn't going to cut it. Instead, why don't you try discussing rationally whatever it is you feel needs changing? Wikipedians are, on the whole, a kind, intelligent and fair-minded bunch. You'll find a much better reception if you try engaging folks as human beings, instead of behaving like schoolyard thugs. Please. I'd like to know what your real concerns are, minus all this saber-rattling vandalism. But I can't listen to your concerns if you won't stop blaring a horn in my ears. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 22:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
We would prefer to do this privatly.
As you already know by virtue of our ip addresses, we are Israelis and Jewish. Please excuse my spelling and grammar mistakes as I am not a Native English speaker. Most of my English is from literature, television and text books. Though I do get the chance to speak with students or tourists now and then. Or is it now and again. I'm not sure which.
We want to relate to your message in the hopes that you really are sincere.
We feel that we were relating to you as human beings and that some of you as stated in the post above this one unilaterally began adding the JEWISH content when they got "fed up" with discussing the issue civilly. If you look back through the history of the last couple of days you will see that this is true. AND it is the reason that we are so upset. There was a staus quo and it was broken. We feel that the individuals who broke it are anti-Semitic.
We see no need for the word Jewish to be present on a page where the man accused is a criminal. We have heard all the arguments about it being biographical but we still feel that it would be better to leave it out.
We feel that anyone interested in promoting "GOODNESS" would understand our concerns.
We are not sure what to do since we have discussed this issue ad nausea and to no avail.
We do not like the conjecture that is written in many areas of the page but realize that this is a current event and people have the right to write about it.
It is the Jewish issue that we are concerned with BECAUSE it hurts us.
So again I say. Please allow us to revert the page in a manner that does not insult and hurt us. We are asking you for this assuming that you care about our feelings.
These are our real feelings Kate.62.0.175.73 09:56, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Pardon me for butting in but I have to ask: do you dispute the facts in the article (namely that money went from Abramoff to a Jewish settlment), or do you believe those facts are correct but that they should not be in the article? Johntex\talk 00:42, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
It hasn't been proven. It might not be true. The FBI is investigating it but the results are not conclusive at all. In fact they claim to not have a clue. Everything is going by some email massages between Abrammoff and a friend and for all we know it might just be a money laundering scheme. Thats we we edited it in a way which stuck to the facts. Its conjecture. There is no proof.62.0.175.73 09:56, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- I do believe it's the former. Also, I've taken up residence here, and three's a crowd, thank you very much.--Sean Black (talk) 01:08, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Am I being invited to leave? I hope not becuase it is warm and cozy here. My talk page is vacant today and I don't feel like going home to it. Johntex\talk 01:23, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- There's a reason it's warm here, if you catch my drift.--Sean Black (talk) 01:28, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, yes: Terribly romantic, wouldn't you say, Kate?--Sean Black (talk) 06:49, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, I like what y'all have done with the place! =D · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 06:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
That really looks good! especially since it's cold and rainy in Israel right now. And the weather forecast says it might snow this week. So there will finally be skiing on Mt. Hermon in the Golan and all the kids in Tel Aviv will be taking that 40 minute bus ride up to Jerusalem in order to actually feel cold wet ice.62.0.175.73 09:56, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- So Kate, whats up? we see that the Abramoff page is unprotected agiain. We want to revert the changes that were made.62.0.175.73 09:56, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Its us again with another ip.
We left a nice message on the discussion page. We then reverted the paragraphs to how they were before and got locked out by ALKIVAR and Stuffofinterest. We are sure that they have a anti-Jewish agenda. Alkivar wrote that he was reverting our changes because they were anti-jewish/ Not quite sure why he wrote it that way. He should have said anti-anti jewish. Anyway.The war is back on. Thats sad.62.0.140.93 13:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Kate, here's a link that we thought you would like.
Pirveli
Hi, I just wanted to let you know that you left a message on Talk:Pirveli and not on User talk:Pirveli. So now the article talk page is orphaned, but I don't know if you want to repost the message to the correct talk. (you are an admin, so you can clean it up;) ). Renata 17:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Please see Talk:Katharine Hepburn —Quarl (talk) 2006-02-05 08:50Z
A final decision has been published in this case.
For the arbitration committee. --Tony Sidaway 18:11, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Please help settle the dispute over external links on Survivor: Panama
Protecting Policy pages
Thanks for your intervention at WP:NPOV. Please check also WP:V where we are having a simnilar problem with two editors. Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 16:44, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
help with a vandal!
Hi Kate! Hope you are well and happy. I am still working on Bonnie and Clyde and Frank Hamer, though most of my time is being spent in the military project with Kirill. I wanted to ask you to look at the edits of 217.23.232.194 which are all, each and every one, vandalism. This user is not adding anything, but adding garbage and vandalism to each article he/she visits. (probably a man, women have more sense). Would you take a look, and if you agree, deal with it as an editor? THANKS, and if i can research anything for you, hollar! By the way, you never did tell me if you liked my edits on Margaret Tudor? old windy bear 20:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- While in general I agree with removing old warnings, I'm not sure that warnings from January should have been removed. Especially as this user has been blocked twice already. I'm not going to restore them but I'll let you decide what you think is best. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- That's twice in 24 hours I forgot about non-static IP's. The four computers I edit from all use a static IP, which is interesting as the contract agreement says they are not. Perhaps we should be archiving vandals talk pages. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 21:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Blockin of User:Dustimagic is a Nazi!!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks for blocking this user. I think it might actually be a fellow classmate of mine trying to be funny as it is from my school's IP. Nevertheless, thank you for taking care of this "fan" of mine. Dustimagic *\o/* (talk/contribs) *\o/* 22:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Please put the sprotect back, the vandalism is starting again. Thank you SirIsaacBrock 01:31, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
You are a mentor! Please familiarize yourself with the case and conflict. I've posted notices to the article's talk page and AN. You may want to introduce yourself to all the parties (though that's a lot). Again, thank you. Dmcdevit·t 10:51, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Bonnie and Clyde's article
Katefan0Hi Kate! I went into considerable detail on the discussion page on the allegations made on that article, I also reworded a couple of sections to reflect direct quotes from sources. I am at a loss how some of the critics blame you for any alleged error - i asked them if they have a source, or an error, bring it to me, and I will correct the article at once, in other words, if you have real information, tell it, instead of attacking the poor editor who is just trying to keep this professional! If you ever got to read Margaret Tudor, was my addition okay? I got two books on her, and really resourced the added section. As to Bonnie and Clyde, I have every book ever written on them -- if someone wants to dispute something, do so, and we will research it, and resolve it -- don't attack you! I addressed their legitimate concerns by rewording the sections in question, and heavily sourcing, by direct quotes and even page numbers! If they have further concerns, I have asked Tru nicely to bring the info to me, and I will take care of it. Hope you are well! old windy bear 14:45, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Radio Maryja
I was unhappy when you blocked both myself and Ksenon for reverts on the Radio Maryja article since I was asking for the page to be protected. Ksenon has pretty much chased anyone interested on writing an unbiased article about the controversial radio station Radio Maryja, away. I tried including his "counter criticism", which is unsupported by anything. You blocked us both when I asked for the page to be protected, and after being unblocked Ksenon went ahead and reverted the article back to his version without trying to incorporate anything anyone else has done on the article. Please either protect the page or block Ksenon from working on the page, I don't feel like fighting to keep the Radio Maryja article accurate anymore.--Milicz 18:35, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
NLP discussion
Thankyou for agreeing to mentor the NLP article editors -- I appreciate your time, and will agree to assist the mentors in whatever way I can. Could you take a look at this post, [8]. I really don't know how to handle this one because the first step in dispute resolution involves attempting to talk with the editor via private message, to find common ground or atleast agree to disagree. I don't want to inflame the situation so I'm more than happy to engage the mentors assistance to resolve any outstanding issues. --Comaze 03:04, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
KatefanO. You just "archived" constructive repeat discussion and explanation from editors that were made over the last few days. After a few clicks, I cannot find it. Return it to the present talk page as soon as possible. I have some reading to do, as per mediator's recommendation. HeadleyDown 02:12, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
OK I found it. A clean slate is on its way as requested! HeadleyDown 02:51, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey Kate, I'm wondering if you might want to offer a vote, or at least a comment, regarding the issue of whether "The Nation" name space should be the article about the U.S. periodical or a disambiguation page. You can contribute your thoughts here: Talk:The Nation#Article title. Thank you and take care. --Howrealisreal 02:14, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Edit War between Appleby & Endroit
Hi, I hope you remember the Edit War last week, that resulted in Appleby getting blocked for 72 hours by you. Well I believe Appleby still continues to Edit-War again today, trying to edit so as to evade the 3RR. I managed to stay out of it this time. But I would like you to review his edit patterns today in East Sea (disambiguation). He did his edits before discussing anything with the other editors, and proceded to revert others as well. I believe it to unfair that you told me to NOT edit-war and I followed, while Appleby proceeded to edit-war again without any self-restraint. Can you please let me know what your thoughts are? If I need to file Arbitration or Mediation, I'll do it. Please let me know. Thank you very much.--Endroit 10:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Anon corrections
After careful discussion, deliberation and exhaustive reading and rereading of the entire history of the writing and editing of this page we will accept the article as it stands now. We don't feel that the article is totally unbiased toward Jews and Israel however since we are dealing with different degrees of anti-Jewish/Israel sentiments this is probably the best we can get, short of really hacking the site which you all should know was a viable option but unacceptable to us. You can't destroy an entire encyclopedia because of a few bad sentences.
You speak about assuming "good faith" on this site but much of the things that you have written about this man are caustic and seemingly vengeful. We wonder what the real agenda is. Is Jack "Shylock" are you Jealous. We wonder about what thoughts and emotions are driving you to write this page. One only has to read the history of the page to see what we mean by "degrees" of Antisemitism. One writer would write a sentence containing conjecture and spite and another, more intelligent writer realizing how bad it sounded would edit the sentence in a clever manner, without really changing the meaning. We'll sit back and monitor for now. 62.0.134.2 11:38, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Look!
Look at my user page. I did it for subwayjack, zen-master, BigDaddy777 and all of my other fans out there. ;-) Taken last weekend by the lovely Jennifer. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 12:43, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Let's see. Jennifer, katefan0, my mom...all need your eyes checked. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 14:33, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations!!!
10000 | This user has over 10000 edits on the English Wikipedia. |
Reaching this milestone would not be nearly as big a deal if your edits were not also of such high quality and character. Wikipedia is lucky to have you! Johntex\talk 16:57, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Oh I don't know about anticlimatic. Hitting 10K during an effort to end an edit war makes your achievement all the more noble and inspiring. By the way, I wanted to get you something in celebration of your achievement, but I didn't have any money, so I stole this beer from Bbatsell. Free beer!!! May I suggest you pair this beer with some brisket from the Salt Lick? They do mail order now - which, in my book, is proof that despite all the things wrong in the world, that life in general just keeps getting better. Enjoy!! Johntex\talk 17:23, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Wow, that's rich. I've got to say, there is something just a little...how should I say this... *wrong* ...about formalwear at the Salt Lick. I'm fully with you on that one. If I start an article on the best Barbeque joint in the Buda/Driftwood/Dripping Springs tri-plex, will you upload a photo of you in your shirt to illustrate the article? Johntex\talk 17:40, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Ack! Shoo, Johtex, shoo! *reclaims territory*--Sean Black (talk) 20:17, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Sean, er, hey! I didn't know you were here, you're supposed to be on a wikibreak. We weren't doing anything, honest. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 20:56, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes that's right - I was just plying her with beer and complimenting her on her shirt and belt buckle. Speaking of the belt buckle, I think it should make its way to some more places. How about bar and belt buckle? Also Advertising, Public relations and Brand. In addition, Promotional item aka schwag and tchotchke would be good places. There's room for one more at Logo as well. And of course, let's not forget Country music!!! Johntex\talk 21:04, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- In other news, I see that the regents approved the North end zone expansion of Darrell K. Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium. Johntex\talk 22:13, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Belt buckle. Belts. Pants. I know what you were thinking. Now shoo, shoo!--Sean Black (talk) 23:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- In other news, I see that the regents approved the North end zone expansion of Darrell K. Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium. Johntex\talk 22:13, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes that's right - I was just plying her with beer and complimenting her on her shirt and belt buckle. Speaking of the belt buckle, I think it should make its way to some more places. How about bar and belt buckle? Also Advertising, Public relations and Brand. In addition, Promotional item aka schwag and tchotchke would be good places. There's room for one more at Logo as well. And of course, let's not forget Country music!!! Johntex\talk 21:04, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Congrats Kate! Hope you enjoyed my beer. —bbatsell ¿? 00:00, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
NPOV, DFtT & other FLA
Priceless, isn't it? I laughed so hard it hurt the first time I saw it. FeloniousMonk 20:54, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Cluestick
Thank you, I will treasure it always :-)
I understand
my bad 132.241.245.49 04:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Kate?
Did you know that you have 4 articles on your Cleanup desk? Shame! :) --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 12:07, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
This will give you a laugh
User talk:JzG#Vadalism (sic), part of Pat's latest crusade to have a referenced source for every fact on the project, including, apparently, the existence of a 2006 Winter Olympics :-D Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] 19:46, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
- Oh fuck me, he's only gone and nominated the medal tables from every single Olympic games since 1872 for deletion as uncited! You couldn't make it up. Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Olympic games medal count Just zis Guy, you know? [T]/[C] 20:16, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Clay Aiken
Can I just say that I find it mildly amusing that the last time there was a big fat edit war on this article, you and I (among others) were criticized for allowing any mention of speculation about his sexual orientation into the article, now we're being criticized for not allowing more speculation? My, how times change. Hermione1980 20:24, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
Quit...
Defacing my user page, you ugly cunt.-Brian Brockmeyer 02:47, 13 February 2006 (UTC)