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The section is pretty short and accurate with adequate citations. Yet again '''POINT THE POV AND THE ALLEGED ERRORS'''. Discuss the need for changes in talk page. It's only you and Student. In any case numerical superiority can't counterbalance inaccurate knowledge. --[[User:Ioannes Tzimiskes|Ioannes Tzimiskes]] ([[User talk:Ioannes Tzimiskes|talk]]) 10:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
The section is pretty short and accurate with adequate citations. Yet again '''POINT THE POV AND THE ALLEGED ERRORS'''. Discuss the need for changes in talk page. It's only you and Student. In any case numerical superiority can't counterbalance inaccurate knowledge. --[[User:Ioannes Tzimiskes|Ioannes Tzimiskes]] ([[User talk:Ioannes Tzimiskes|talk]]) 10:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
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Please use edit summaries to indicate the changes you have made; This summary does not indicate that you've removed the IDF from the info box. Instead you've used it to make a poorly founded accusation. You know better. Jd2718 (talk) 05:15, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
Please use edit summaries to indicate the changes you have made; This summary does not indicate that you've added the IDF to the info box. Instead you've used it to indicate a far less contentious edit. You know better. Jayjg (talk) 05:18, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Point-y and wrong, but that's user space. I do appreciate that your further edits to Sabra and Shatila massacre have carried accurate summaries. Jd2718 (talk) 15:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Bronxites born in Africa
Jd, I just ran across your discussion of this topic at User Talk:Bellagio99. Bellagio and I just discussed this very question at Talk:The Bronx#African-born population. I tracked Oscar Johnson's Ghanaian-American story "Chilly Coexistence" back up its URL tree, and found it was part of an "race anthology" produced either for or by a 2000 journalism class at Columbia University. I don't know if the anthology was a collection of already-written articles from such sources as the Columbia Daily Spectator, or the work-product of the class itself, which focussed on local reporting in New York City (see the syllabus). By checking Columbia's faculty directory, I found the instructor (should you care to ask him about this) is still there, but working in the administration rather than still teaching. Anyway, my feeling is that either immigration patterns have changed radically in the last ten years or that Oscar Johnson misunderstood statistics which I haven't been able to verify without more research than I care to undertake and which strongly contradict the census statistics that I do have. (Bellagio's rather-more-extreme attitude is that one statistic that's not credible makes the whole source unusable.) Shakescene (talk) 21:36, 23 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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Rollback granted
You've got rollback now, per your request. I'm sure we're supposed to tell you to read Help:Reverting#Rollback or something, but you've been leaving edit summaries correctly for months, so just keep doing what you're doing. Cheers!--chaser - t 21:02, 6 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your support on Thessaloniki. A few minutes work is turning out to be brain surgery! :) I will change. Feel free to alter my changes. But look for opportunities to revert the other editor. Since I can't get his agreement, I will have to catch him with 3RR. I hate to do this but it seems the only way.
If you have other ideas, I would like to hear them! Student7 (talk) 21:00, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Explain, explain, revert as necessary. Gaming into a 3rr violation is not a good thing to do, and certainly not to plan. I understand your frustration, but normal dispute resolution will take care of this. Jd2718 (talk) 02:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The guy is a bit of a crank and extrem defensive about his English for reasons that are not immediately apparent. (If your Greek was not perfect wouldn't you be aware of it?) I have encountered cranks before and the only way I know is to RFC them and then to mediation. I sure hope to avoid the latter though. What a pain! And on such trivial grounds! Also, he has not gone to any of the references I left WP:MOS, Strunk and White, etc. The latter a bit much for a casual editor, I admit. I don't see this guy as a major functional editor in the long run. A couple of athletic contributions will be about it, I suspect. And all hard-fought! (I hope in some other article! :) Student7 (talk) 02:53, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Just read your note (written before mine above). I agree that it is better to edit than revert. I will be doing neither for awhile! Student7 (talk) 12:03, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Some criticism:"Thessaloniki has had a major role in the development of basketball in Greece." "Major" seems pov to me. If it is indeed major, the reader should be able to discern this from the text. The whole idea of pov is that we aren't trying to "manipulate" readers through the use of adjectives.
"The local YMCA was the first to introduce the sport to the country while Iraklis won the first Greek championship." Run-on sentence. What does the YMCA in 1905 (I think I had put in the date earlier) have to do with a championship today? I think the entry is "cute enough" to keep about the Y, but it should be uncoupled from the championship. Probably should have date. Iraklis championship should have date as well. It is history not timeless.
"From 1979 to 1993 Aris and PAOK won between them 10 championships, 7 cups and several European titles." This is wonderful but needs reference.
"Players for Thessalonikian teams have included: Nikos Galis," etc. It makes me a bit nervous that during one of his tirades, he said that some of these players hadn't played for Thessaloniki at all. I'm not really up to verifying each one myself. We really need another Greek sports guy here. (Maybe El Greco can help! :)
"Since 2000 the Iraklis volleyball team has had much domestic, European and international success." much? That is a bit much! :) I forget whether that has a footnote, but if it doesn't, it needs one. (I was able to get dates so it must have had a ref). Thanks. Student7 (talk) 12:23, 28 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]
First and foremost there is no a consensus to your point of view so i don't see a reason to have your comments posted as along as the dispute isn't settled when you and student are the ones who shall justify your deleting of my edits. Secondly i think that my language skills are adequate and free of POV but if you think otherwise you have to point them out specifically. BTW way Iraklis won yet another cup the day before yesterday but i guess that's irrelevant to someone who thinks he owns the article. Last but not least seeing the above comments feel free to know that feelings are mutual --Ioannes Tzimiskes (talk) 08:05, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The section is pretty short and accurate with adequate citations. Yet again POINT THE POV AND THE ALLEGED ERRORS. Discuss the need for changes in talk page. It's only you and Student. In any case numerical superiority can't counterbalance inaccurate knowledge. --Ioannes Tzimiskes (talk) 10:48, 7 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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The Levant and Middle East use British English (when they use English), hence my change to Za'atar. Orpheus (talk) 15:18, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. On reflection, the whole sentence ought to be changed - it's not really the right usage of "herb" in any case. Thoughts? Orpheus (talk) 16:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect. I think herb is supposed to refer specifically to a plant, but your recent edit addresses that entirely. Thanks! Orpheus (talk) 16:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]