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Venues have been officially confirmed for week 1 of the A-League Finals Series should Brisbane Roar finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at Suncorp Stadium, should Melbourne City finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at AAMI Park, and should Perth Glory finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at |
Venues have been officially confirmed for week 1 of the A-League Finals Series should Brisbane Roar finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at Suncorp Stadium on Friday April 21st or Saturday April 22nd due to their 2017 AFC Champions League commitments in Thailand on Wednesday April 26th, should Melbourne City finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at AAMI Park, and should Perth Glory finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at NIB Stadium with dates and kickoff times to be confirmed by Football Federation Australia on Sunday April 16th after round 27 fixtures have finished. |
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Sydney FC's home knockout semi final has been officially confirmed by Tony Pignata on twitter and Tom Smithies from Daily Telegraph saying that it'll be played definitely be at Allianz Stadium 100% regardless who it is against on either Saturday April 29th (against Melbourne City OR Perth Glory) OR Sunday April 30th (against Brisbane Roar OR Western Sydney Wanderers). |
Sydney FC's home knockout semi final has been officially confirmed by Tony Pignata on twitter and from Tom Smithies from Daily Telegraph in Sydney saying that it'll be played definitely be at Allianz Stadium 100% regardless who it is against on either Saturday April 29th (against Melbourne City OR Perth Glory) OR Sunday April 30th (against Brisbane Roar OR Western Sydney Wanderers). |
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And for Melbourne Victory's home knockout semi final it'll be played at either AAMI Park (against Brisbane Roar OR Perth Glory OR Western Sydney Wanderers) or Etihad Stadium (against Melbourne City) confirmed by David Davutovic from Herald Sun its depending on the opponent Melbourne Victory gets with the dates and kickoff time to be confirmed by Football Federation Australia after final round of the regular season and after week 1 of the A-League Finals results. |
And for Melbourne Victory's home knockout semi final it'll be played at either AAMI Park (against Brisbane Roar OR Perth Glory OR Western Sydney Wanderers) or Etihad Stadium (against Melbourne City) confirmed by David Davutovic from Herald Sun in Melbourne its depending on the opponent Melbourne Victory gets with the dates and kickoff time to be confirmed by Football Federation Australia after final round of the regular season and after week 1 of the A-League Finals results. |
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== NNSW Round 2 south == |
Revision as of 14:36, 11 April 2017
Talk Page Archives
Apologies
Hey mate, Sorry if this edit annoyed you. I didn't mean to do undo to bug you. I wanted to restore it to the situation before your edit so I could make sure of myself that I didn't put in mistakes, that's all. --SuperJew (talk) 07:30, 6 January 2017 (UTC) I also don't really understand what your issue with the edit actually was? --SuperJew (talk) 07:34, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- It just irked me that it was a small issue that didn't require an undo, just needed to be rectified. - J man708 (talk) 08:52, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
Best goalkeeper in infobox
I hear what you're saying about your worry that it'll explode and be against WP:NOSTATS. However there is precedent to having best goalkeeper as it is a parameter of the template and is described in the documentation. Also, it's not WP:OR (as it would be in some leagues) as it is sourced and mentioned in the end of season awards in the A-League.
Where do we stop? Quite simply, we only add the things which already have an established parameter. Fair play award, Best u23 player, Happiest manager at the end of Round 17 don't have parameters so they shouldn't (and would be a bit of a clusterfuck) be added. (By the way, if you do have a source about Happiest manager at the end of Round 17, I'd love to see it)
Regarding other leagues, England, Italy and Spain, which are three of the most famous known worldwide leagues have it, so I'm not sure how not having the best goalkeeper matches it.
Any additional thoughts J mate? --SuperJew (talk) 17:46, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- @SuperJew: I may have jumped the gun on it, I was sure that the best keeper stat wasn't in the infobox. Is this a new development or something? I'm sure it wasn't there not long ago... Not trying to sound like a salty AUFC fan (I'm really not, take the good with the bad), but having Sorensen as best keeper last season seems so forced. He really just wasn't statistically compared to say Galekovic. It's exactly like having a best goal scorer stat not going to the highest scorer. It's so arbitrary, opaque and vague.
- At the end of the day, if it's included in the other leagues, then we should have it in. Even if it does mean keeping in Sorensen's keeper of the year stat (personal bias aside). I'll apologise to this one, it is an established perameter (contrary to my pre-existing beliefs). While we're at it, I've been thinking about getting rid of the "Biggest Home Win" stat wherein it's illogical showing them all and replacing them with a single 3 goals (8 times). Thoughts? - J man708 (talk) 21:03, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- In both cases I think it's good that it's referenced though because of that. If it wasn't I'd agree it's silly to keep it. On the personal note I agree that it was a bit weird that the FFA gave the award to Sorensen, though it's their usual BS of keeping baby Melb City happy :S On the plus saide Galekovic has 4 seasons he won the award (which is the most of all keepers in the league).
- I totally support the "biggest home win" removal/replacement... it just clogs up the infobox --SuperJew (talk) 21:13, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- @SuperJew: I mean, he was at least the best keeper in the league. He's the only domestic keeper to have been selected for a WC squad since the 1974 team. I think the FFA just wanted to show off their marquee keeper, to be honest.
- Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person who agrees with a lot of what the FFA does and also is a bit of a fan of the idea of Melbourne City. Sure, they've got the Cahill vi$ion and all that, but really, they're good for the league. Heart were beating (teams) too irregularly and the City Group brang in some good money. Added to that, they've also loop-holed around the FFA's anti-transfer concept and in their short time have brought some reasonable names to the league. - J man708 (talk) 21:30, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- @SuperJew: I don't. Not just yet, at least. The clubs most likely to be promoted are the ex-NSL clubs, who proceded to fuck up the top flight last time. Whether they admit to it or not, there's still an us and them mentality amongst many. Even South Melbourne (who are probably the closest ethnic club to being introduced) still have a way to go, distancing themselves from any form of nationalist identity (which they may rightfully claim is taking away from their overall identity). It's an interesting case, but I can actually sympathise with the FFA's stance on it. The current setup of clubs in the A-League coming from franchises is far too manufactured for my liking. It's why I'm a huge fan of the Wollongong Wolves being a part of the league in the very near future. I don't feel as though any of the ethnically backgrounded clubs have done enough to warrant their inclusion in the top flight just yet. Hakoah Sydney City East as you know means power or strength in Hebrew and they've still clearly got the Star of David on their logo. Bonnyrigg White Eagles call themselves the White Eagles, even though this is clearly a self-identity of Serbian culture. Melbourne Knights had that dummy spit over the Melbourne Croatia Soccer Club FFA Cup shirt sponsor. West Adelaide still is identified as Hellas by many etc. I feel as though teams with any form of national identity should be rebuilt from the ground up. Brisbane Roar for me is an interesting one, however... - J man708 (talk) 21:54, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
Non-free image use
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Flag of Europe
This is not the merely the European Union flag. It was created at the behest of the Council of Europe, who still own the copyright to it, 61 years ago. Azerbaijan is one of their members. The European Union didn't adopt it until much much later.Tvx1 05:55, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Tvx1: what's this in relation to? - J man708 (talk) 08:29, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- This edit.Tvx1 13:49, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Tvx1: as long as the Pacific flag is kept, then I don't mind being wrong! - J man708 (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- The Pacific flag has never been associated with Japan or the Pacific Grand Prix. The European Grand Prix however has actually been held under the European Flag. So your reasoning for adding the Pacific flag is flawed.Tvx1 17:02, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- It feels about as correct as utilising the San Marino flag for the race in Imola, Italy or the Luxembourg flag for the race in Nurburg, Germany. I know that these were specifically the San Marino and Luxembourg GPs, (which could justify the flag usage) but so too was the Pacific GP (utilising the flag of the Pacific Community). If we keep the Euro flag, then we should keep the Pacific flag. - J man708 (talk) 17:34, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- The Pacific flag has never been associated with Japan or the Pacific Grand Prix. The European Grand Prix however has actually been held under the European Flag. So your reasoning for adding the Pacific flag is flawed.Tvx1 17:02, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Tvx1: as long as the Pacific flag is kept, then I don't mind being wrong! - J man708 (talk) 14:13, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- This edit.Tvx1 13:49, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
2017 FFA Cup qualification
HOW MANY Victorian clubs have entered now ? Wow, quite impressive. First draw next tuesday. Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:56, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, hell yeah! I'm down with that! Still though, not as many as the Coupe de France! - J man708 (talk) 17:08, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
- Can you please vet my edits for NNSW in terms of tiers (for which i have remarkably little interest as they are essentially meaningless bullsh that doesnt belong in an encyclopedia)?
- I have essentially copy/paste teams/tiers from last years event, and recognize some teams may have had promo/rel. since then. Once again, NNSW cocked-up the live draw with 3 extra balls, so the match-ups they said happened on the live feed were not what they ended up with. As per last year, there will be whole regions which will skip a round; but too early to tell what will happen beyond round 3 - as they don't even know !!! Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:18, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Matilda Maniac: Too easy... Well, actually, it's not, but I'll get on it. Hahaha. I'll definitely agree that some member federations make it so much easier than others. I watched the draw and updated it as it happened and thought that I'd zoned out and missed a game and quickly had to go back and fix it. It wouldn't be an FFA Cup draw without a fuck-up or two. #TheMagicOfTheCup Also, I hope you appreciated the NK barnstar! - J man708 (talk) 10:24, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- saw the half time score - (4-0) and tuned out; next week's game will be a DIFFERENT STORY. Did you know the Perth Glory hasnt ever made it to ACL - very disappointing . Will have to make do with Chelsea instead. Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:32, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Matilda Maniac: You got kinda screwed over in 2011–12, when the AFC decided to drop Australia to 1.5 spots. To be fair, you can feel free to support Adelaide United in the CL! - - - - NO !
- @Matilda Maniac: You're a knob-jockey! Hahaha At least it's not like having to support your main rivals, Welnix and the legendary "Distance Derby". Move over Old Firm, El Clásico and Superclásico. This is the real rivalry here, lads! - J man708 (talk) 10:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- * the draw for NNSW for round 1 and olny Round 1 was made yesterday. . . .this edit about "rearranged NNSW rounds as per 2014-2015 reshufflings" is unsubstantiated and I will revert to what was actually announced for Round 1. You do not know the format for the later rounds, so it is not a worthwhile exercise to try and guess based on what happened the year before last. It maybe clear what is happening in Round 6 and 7 already, but it is better to leave NNSW round 2/3/4/5 blank (at least for the northern zones) until there is referencable information. Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- * ALSO : may still be a bit premature to add Tie numbers for some of the rounds until all Federations' paths are known. - last time there was a lot of renumbering edits of tie numbers that was not very meaningful.
- * ALSO : Queensland may be moving from their 8 regional competitions into three broader zones - Queensland FFA applications - I guess we'll know next week. Will mean a shit-load of extra travel and removal of many local derbies, so i don't think its likely a good thing. Matilda Maniac (talk) 23:14, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- is it worth removing the under construction tag now ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:27, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- It helps us explain why it currently looks like a dog's breakfast. Hahaha. - J man708 (talk) 05:46, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- your comment that TheFFACup.com.au lists NNSW North Coast as Round 1 and NNSW Far North Coast as Round 2 seems to me more likely that they just put different sections into different rounds - I'll bet the FFA are just as confused as the rest of us for what Northern NSW Football are really doing. The same website also has 19 ties between Undecided teams playing on Saturday 18th March as ROUND 3. Now thats not going to work either fpor the southern pool unless they finish in Round 8. Hopefully the FFA Cup website is not using Wikipedia as a source ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:05, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep in mind, they have more than 8 teams, while the other Subzones use 8 teams or less, meaning that they WILL need another round, regardless. It's exactly what happened last year. Have a look at this. So far, I'm 99.9% sure this is the set up, dude - User:J man708/FFA Cup - J man708 (talk) 22:11, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- PRobably you are right, but that doesnt legitimise your Guessing Games. I'm posting this discussion on Format on the articles Talk Page to get a wider audience, and to try to slightly temper your obvious enthusiasm for predictions. Enthusiasm meant in a nice way !!! not in a Caltex Superjmanapedia sort of way. Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:17, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- You can change it back if you want. I'm probably gonna stick to refining that Userpage link, to be honest, anyway. I'm sure that I'm not too far off of figuring out the nonsensical NNSW system. Hahaha.
- No, just FYI. also I get the new term wrong, its Superjmanapedia. Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:38, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
- You can change it back if you want. I'm probably gonna stick to refining that Userpage link, to be honest, anyway. I'm sure that I'm not too far off of figuring out the nonsensical NNSW system. Hahaha.
- PRobably you are right, but that doesnt legitimise your Guessing Games. I'm posting this discussion on Format on the articles Talk Page to get a wider audience, and to try to slightly temper your obvious enthusiasm for predictions. Enthusiasm meant in a nice way !!! not in a Caltex Superjmanapedia sort of way. Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:17, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- Keep in mind, they have more than 8 teams, while the other Subzones use 8 teams or less, meaning that they WILL need another round, regardless. It's exactly what happened last year. Have a look at this. So far, I'm 99.9% sure this is the set up, dude - User:J man708/FFA Cup - J man708 (talk) 22:11, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- your comment that TheFFACup.com.au lists NNSW North Coast as Round 1 and NNSW Far North Coast as Round 2 seems to me more likely that they just put different sections into different rounds - I'll bet the FFA are just as confused as the rest of us for what Northern NSW Football are really doing. The same website also has 19 ties between Undecided teams playing on Saturday 18th March as ROUND 3. Now thats not going to work either fpor the southern pool unless they finish in Round 8. Hopefully the FFA Cup website is not using Wikipedia as a source ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 22:05, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
- It helps us explain why it currently looks like a dog's breakfast. Hahaha. - J man708 (talk) 05:46, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- is it worth removing the under construction tag now ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:27, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Matilda Maniac: You're a knob-jockey! Hahaha At least it's not like having to support your main rivals, Welnix and the legendary "Distance Derby". Move over Old Firm, El Clásico and Superclásico. This is the real rivalry here, lads! - J man708 (talk) 10:57, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Matilda Maniac: You got kinda screwed over in 2011–12, when the AFC decided to drop Australia to 1.5 spots. To be fair, you can feel free to support Adelaide United in the CL! - - - - NO !
- saw the half time score - (4-0) and tuned out; next week's game will be a DIFFERENT STORY. Did you know the Perth Glory hasnt ever made it to ACL - very disappointing . Will have to make do with Chelsea instead. Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:32, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- @Matilda Maniac: Too easy... Well, actually, it's not, but I'll get on it. Hahaha. I'll definitely agree that some member federations make it so much easier than others. I watched the draw and updated it as it happened and thought that I'd zoned out and missed a game and quickly had to go back and fix it. It wouldn't be an FFA Cup draw without a fuck-up or two. #TheMagicOfTheCup Also, I hope you appreciated the NK barnstar! - J man708 (talk) 10:24, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
- 12 victorian ties done, 32 to go. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !!! Matilda Maniac (talk) 09:56, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Matilda Maniac: I had to go to Coles before it closed. Also, doing these is so tiring. I'm just gonna slowly chip away at them throughout the night. - J man708 (talk) 10:07, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- looks good now. Just doing 20 ties for Brisbane round 3 did my head in. I sooooo hope NSW does a draw for each round instead of the unbridled excitement of all 7 rounds at once.
- Irymple Knights - Only 7 more walkovers before they come up against A-League opposition. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:29, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- minor revert RE: Campbellfield Lions. Matilda Maniac (talk) 09:12, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- Irymple Knights - March on, march on.
- sorry I removed your under construction tag yesterday by mistake (when I removed my in use tag after adding the Victorian Round 2 Draw). However, maybe its OK now, that the competition's underway,and the main further edits/constructional changes will be when all of Queensland is known. So add back the under construction tag if you think it needs to be, but I'd be mainly creating the changes first in a Sandbox (or equivalent, as you are doing). Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:52, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Matilda Maniac: Irymple Knights actually had to play a game, though, so that kinda ruins it for me! Also, no sweat, I just had it on there when the page was undergoing hourly updates. It's a little more set in stone now, anyway. Also, you never got back to me on your talk page, you asshat! - J man708 (talk) 04:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- and watch out for User:124.189.34.50 . . . . not always accurate edits - appears to mean well, and I've been trying hard to assume good faith but I think there's often an element of speculation in the posts from time to time. Remind you of anyone? Matilda Maniac (talk) 07:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- I have a feeling they're from the 442 forums, personally. Remind me of anyone? Hmmm... I'm gonna go with politicians. They seem to do that often enough. Hahaha. - J man708 (talk) 08:09, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- no i was actually thinking of someone born in October 1990 ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 11:45, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- Sebastian Rode or İlkay Gündoğan? Makes me realise what I could've done, had I been skilled enough with a football! - J man708 (talk) 17:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- no i was actually thinking of someone born on 11 October 1990 ! Matilda Maniac (talk)
- Sebastian Rode it is! - J man708 (talk) 03:03, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- no i was actually thinking of someone born on 11 October 1990 from Adelaide ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:26, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, yeah, yeah... I got it the first time! Also, Football NSW's draw is done! Yay! - J man708 (talk) 04:42, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- See you've done rounds 2 5 6 and 7 for NSW . . . . round 3 will be easy - good luck with that. I just wish they had done round 2 and 3, and left the others for later like most sensible federations. Matilda Maniac (talk) 07:12, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Fingers crossed you entered that 'easy' NSW Round 3 in exact order ! Otherwise those tie numbers that link through wont work. Only good thing about a 6-round draw for me is I can see who the likely opponents might be for my old team Mosman FC, who I played with for 5 years. Matilda Maniac (talk) 21:59, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
- You're starting to lose it in your old age! You're from WA, not NSW! Hurr hurr hurr. But really though, that draw was unpleasant, least it's 12 months til another. - J man708 (talk) 00:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- only been in WA for 23 years, so only 27 to go before being deemed a 'local'.
- Played for the mighty Mosman FC for 5 years - or maybe it was 6 - uniform was identical to Argentina's; so of course thats my real second team, and I'll see them at MCG in 14 weeks. Matilda Maniac (talk) 12:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Methuselah Maniac, how bloody old are you? Hahaha! Were you a Messi/Maradona style number 10 aswell? - J man708 (talk) 21:29, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Also, it's 8am here and all I can hear is those damn V8 Supercars! Are you much of a motorsport fan? - J man708 (talk) 21:31, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- i was a left back, but my Argentinian hero was Osvaldo Ardiles who played midfield for Spurs, and Ray Clemence who was the Liverpool goalkeeper. Thought Maradona was just a show-pony who could dribble. Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:51, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- You're starting to lose it in your old age! You're from WA, not NSW! Hurr hurr hurr. But really though, that draw was unpleasant, least it's 12 months til another. - J man708 (talk) 00:08, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, yeah, yeah... I got it the first time! Also, Football NSW's draw is done! Yay! - J man708 (talk) 04:42, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- no i was actually thinking of someone born on 11 October 1990 from Adelaide ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:26, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- Sebastian Rode it is! - J man708 (talk) 03:03, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
- no i was actually thinking of someone born on 11 October 1990 ! Matilda Maniac (talk)
- Sebastian Rode or İlkay Gündoğan? Makes me realise what I could've done, had I been skilled enough with a football! - J man708 (talk) 17:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- no i was actually thinking of someone born in October 1990 ! Matilda Maniac (talk) 11:45, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- I have a feeling they're from the 442 forums, personally. Remind me of anyone? Hmmm... I'm gonna go with politicians. They seem to do that often enough. Hahaha. - J man708 (talk) 08:09, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- and watch out for User:124.189.34.50 . . . . not always accurate edits - appears to mean well, and I've been trying hard to assume good faith but I think there's often an element of speculation in the posts from time to time. Remind you of anyone? Matilda Maniac (talk) 07:12, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Matilda Maniac: Irymple Knights actually had to play a game, though, so that kinda ruins it for me! Also, no sweat, I just had it on there when the page was undergoing hourly updates. It's a little more set in stone now, anyway. Also, you never got back to me on your talk page, you asshat! - J man708 (talk) 04:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
- minor revert RE: Campbellfield Lions. Matilda Maniac (talk) 09:12, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
- @Matilda Maniac: I had to go to Coles before it closed. Also, doing these is so tiring. I'm just gonna slowly chip away at them throughout the night. - J man708 (talk) 10:07, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
- 12 victorian ties done, 32 to go. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK !!! Matilda Maniac (talk) 09:56, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
It's funny that Maradona was either loved or hated. I know he was a little before your time, but Bobby Moore will always be almost mythical to me. What about players closer to home? Wynton Rufer, perhaps? - J man708 (talk) 05:15, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
- anything published somewhere for ACT format you put into Round 4 ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 04:36, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- Nope. Not one single thing at all. I got sick of seeing the numbers wrong on the ties. - J man708 (talk) 04:43, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- That's not a good reason to add speculation. Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:14, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- Have reverted - essentially - and awaiting ACT information. Your edit adding ACT also mucked up the current numbers for NSW Round 5 as the tie numbers are linked (and Yes, they will have to be redone when ACT is announced and known). Matilda Maniac (talk) 05:46, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- Nope. Not one single thing at all. I got sick of seeing the numbers wrong on the ties. - J man708 (talk) 04:43, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
- can you update Football NSW round 5 matches as quite a number ties from round 4 that have been played and won so far. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.189.34.50 (talk) 03:52, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Please explain WHY you reverted to 2017 edits?
You certainly know how to encourage people to walk away from having any involvement in wikipedia.
- Because it wasn't formatted correctly at all and looked like a pig's breakfast? All the same info is there, plus the map (which you kinda demanded [why not edit the map yourself if it NEEDS to happen]). How about instead of bitching, you create an account and add to the convo, rather than just editing without showing any sources and then bitching about it being fixed? - J man708 (talk) 04:43, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- EDIT - For the record, a new section goes down the bottom of a talk page. Your bitching isn't worth being on top, first and foremost. - J man708 (talk) 04:43, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- It did not look like a dog's breakfast dickhead. You did not even attempt to explain why you made the change and just deleted it. Now you wonder why I am "bitching"? You acted outside of wikipedia guidelines. I know - I checked. I will be lodging against you. Grow up kid. Your an adult - not 16.
- EDIT - For the record, a new section goes down the bottom of a talk page. Your bitching isn't worth being on top, first and foremost. - J man708 (talk) 04:43, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- Comment from a content bystander Just like to remind everyone here to remember WP:CIVIL L3X1 My Complaint Desk 20:52, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
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Correct Dashes
I mean, chill out dude, and save your ammunition for something more important than a good faith edit about dashes from the most frequent editor on the 2017 FFA Cup preliminary rounds article. Even I dont know how to type a long dash from my keyboard. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:08, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- It just shits me to see one of them out of place, it stands out and looks really tacky and unprofessional. Pet peeve, really. Also, how to type it Tild? CTRL+C; CTRL+V. Hahaha. - J man708 (talk) 13:13, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- But, you're right Tildawg. Maybe I need a Wikibreak or something. - J man708 (talk) 13:17, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Use this script and it'll make your life happier :) --SuperJew (talk) 19:38, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Special Characters > Symbols > En Dash works, too. - J man708 (talk) 19:58, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- I dunno mate, that's a lot of clicks ;) --SuperJew (talk) 20:44, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- @SuperJew: Just wondering, in Israel is it illegal for some douchebag to do use loud, heavy machinery (with a lovely slipping fan belt sound) to make tons of noise at 7:20am? - J man708 (talk) 20:51, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- There's noise laws prohibiting loud noises between 14:00-16:00 and 23:00-7:00, so 7:20 it is legal :( My dad actually called the cops this week as our neighbours were having a superloud obnoxious party around midnight. You can get full info here (the Google Translate of it isn't terrible) --SuperJew (talk) 20:56, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- @SuperJew: Mid afternoon is a bit interesting. I wonder why those times are added? Also, where I live has a main street and along there we have a few pubs that make a fair deal of noise on Friday and Saturday nights, which isn't so bad. Come to think of it, it's an interesting setup. Kinda like a country town, but in the suburbs. - J man708 (talk) 21:00, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- There's noise laws prohibiting loud noises between 14:00-16:00 and 23:00-7:00, so 7:20 it is legal :( My dad actually called the cops this week as our neighbours were having a superloud obnoxious party around midnight. You can get full info here (the Google Translate of it isn't terrible) --SuperJew (talk) 20:56, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- @SuperJew: Just wondering, in Israel is it illegal for some douchebag to do use loud, heavy machinery (with a lovely slipping fan belt sound) to make tons of noise at 7:20am? - J man708 (talk) 20:51, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- I dunno mate, that's a lot of clicks ;) --SuperJew (talk) 20:44, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Special Characters > Symbols > En Dash works, too. - J man708 (talk) 19:58, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- Use this script and it'll make your life happier :) --SuperJew (talk) 19:38, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
- But, you're right Tildawg. Maybe I need a Wikibreak or something. - J man708 (talk) 13:17, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
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A-League Finals
Venues have been officially confirmed for week 1 of the A-League Finals Series should Brisbane Roar finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at Suncorp Stadium on Friday April 21st or Saturday April 22nd due to their 2017 AFC Champions League commitments in Thailand on Wednesday April 26th, should Melbourne City finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at AAMI Park, and should Perth Glory finish 3rd place or 4th place it'll be played at NIB Stadium with dates and kickoff times to be confirmed by Football Federation Australia on Sunday April 16th after round 27 fixtures have finished.
Sydney FC's home knockout semi final has been officially confirmed by Tony Pignata on twitter and from Tom Smithies from Daily Telegraph in Sydney saying that it'll be played definitely be at Allianz Stadium 100% regardless who it is against on either Saturday April 29th (against Melbourne City OR Perth Glory) OR Sunday April 30th (against Brisbane Roar OR Western Sydney Wanderers).
And for Melbourne Victory's home knockout semi final it'll be played at either AAMI Park (against Brisbane Roar OR Perth Glory OR Western Sydney Wanderers) or Etihad Stadium (against Melbourne City) confirmed by David Davutovic from Herald Sun in Melbourne its depending on the opponent Melbourne Victory gets with the dates and kickoff time to be confirmed by Football Federation Australia after final round of the regular season and after week 1 of the A-League Finals results.
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NNSW Round 2 south
im updating this now, unless you are already ? Matilda Maniac (talk) 03:39, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
Done
Flags on Formula 1 articles
Hello,
There is a longstanding consensus on Formula 1-related articles that the flags should be the flags of the country where the race took place, not based on whatever arbitrary name happens to be used. This has been repeatedly discussed at the Formula One WikiProject.
The difficulty with your system comes partly from WP:FLAG. You propose to use the flag of the Pacific Community for races that have no connection or association with the Pacific Community - that weren't even held in Pacific Community member states. You propose to use the flag of San Marino for races with no association with San Marino. You also run into difficulties with other races not named after countries: you inconsistently use the flag of the United Arab Emirates for the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix, for example, and do not make any attempt to provide a flag for the Caesars Palace Grand Prix (which could not be the US flag by your system). Kahastok talk 09:56, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Kahastok: Then could you tell me, (pardon my language), but why the fuck is the 1982 Swiss GP shown as Swiss and not French, ditto the 1997 Luxembourg GP as Luxembourgian and not German? That within itself shows why your system is flawed. List of Formula One Grands Prix - There's a complete lack of consistancy within F1 articles. Also, the Pacific Community issue is the same as Azerbaijan, a non-EU member having the European flag shown on the list page. - J man708 (talk) 10:00, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- Abu Dhabi is exactly the same as the Dallas GP. Both use the flag of the country they're in. I didn't change them, it doesn't mean those flags are the best ones to use. - J man708 (talk) 10:03, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- You're gonna be undoing IP edits until the cows come home, showing the flags to those two races with a different nationality. Definitely the wrong way to do it. - J man708 (talk) 10:09, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- Why did those use the wrong flags? Same reason as the Pacific Grand Prix used the wrong flag after you changed it. Because somebody changed it to use the wrong flag. If you feel that the current rule is so terrible, perhaps should go and get a new consensus at WT:F1? Kahastok talk 10:18, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- The West German and modern German flags are identical, so there is no inconsistency as you suggest. You will note that older flags are generally used where appropriate, e.g. for South African Grands Prix. Kahastok talk 14:30, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- Kahastok, your claim regarding the San Marino Grand Prix is wrong. It was associated with San Marino. Every Sammarinese Grand Prix was organized by the Sammarinese automobile club, not the Italian one. Sammarinese dignitaries always presented the trophies at the podium ceremonies. Similarly the 1982 Swiss Grand Prix, was organized by the Swiss Automobile club. However, because circuit racing was (and still is) forbidden on Swiss territory, they were forced to hold in Dijon just across the border. The situation of the 1997-98 Luxembourg Grands Prix was also very similar. Luxembourg automobile federation. Luxembourg dignitaries (most notably then Hereditary Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg). Even Luxembourg laws (e.g. Tobacco advertisement was allowed, while it was forbidden in Germany). These were much more than simply names for the races.Tvx1 15:46, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- The West German and modern German flags are identical, so there is no inconsistency as you suggest. You will note that older flags are generally used where appropriate, e.g. for South African Grands Prix. Kahastok talk 14:30, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
- What role did the Pacific Community have in the Pacific Grands Prix?
- If you look up wikipedias internal rules regarding the usage of flagicons, flags should never be used illustratively. Pacific Community flag could never be considered anything but illustrative as the Pacific Community is not involved in the running of sport at all.
- If you say a Grand Prix should be flagged according only to "what is in it's name" regardless of other circumstances, that is being illustrative and a no-no.
- Personally, because of the sheer number of times this issue has been brought up over the years, it should be up to anyone who wants to change the consensus to research the previous discussions before bringing up any proposals. The likelihood of any new angle on the discussion being brought to light is near zero. --Falcadore (talk) 08:54, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- It is better to say that it should be up to anyone who wants to change the consensus to research the previous discussions before bringing up any proposals, and that the likelihood of any new angle on the discussion being brought to light will be a function of that research, and that will then be considered at that point in time. Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:36, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Even if we exclude the continental races (which doesn't make sense, as the EU flag is used in other sports like the Ryder Cup to signify Europe), then we're still left with the issues of San Marino's GP with Italian flags and Luxembourg's GP with the German flag? Surely that's only adding needless ambiguity? Does this mean that for equestrian articles, we should show the 1956 Melbourne Olympics with a Swedish flag, as the equestrian events were held there due to quarantine issues? - J man708 (talk) 12:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- The 1956 Sweden Olympics were partly held in Melbourne, Australia, due to the lack of quarantine issues for non-equestrian sports. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:47, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- So you are saying there should be two standards - the San Marino Grand Prix was always held in Italy but should have the San Marino flag? Italy has hosted many races that are not called the Italian Grand Prix. The Bari Grand Prix, Gran Premio di Mugello, Rome Grand Prix, Grand Prix of Naples, Mediterranean Grand Prix, San Remo Grand Prix, Syracuse Grand Prix, Targa Florio, Mille Miglia, Coppa Acerbo, Messina Grand Prix and so on - and of all of these races all raced and held in Italy, the San Marino Grand Prix is different?
- Whatabout the Tripoli Grand Prix? Raced in Libya, has a Libyan name, but is an Italian race as Libya was not an independant nation. Libya was a part of Italy. But it has Libya in the name of the race?
- If it is in Italy it is an Italian race. How can that be confusing? If people are sooooo confused by this, guess what - you click and the link in San Marino Grand Prix and the confusion is very quickly explained. That's how linking is supposed to work.
- Now go read the previous discussions. All your questions will be answered by those discussions. --Falcadore (talk) 21:04, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Please stop ordering me to read this and that, otherwise I'll completely stop responding. The Tripoli GP should use the flag that Libya used at the time and if that was the Italian flag, so be it. We show whatever flag the country was using at the time, hence why drivers like Rudolf Caracciola have a damn swastika next to their names. Why should the F1 project differ to the Football project when showing flags? - J man708 (talk) 03:35, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
- The 1956 Sweden Olympics were partly held in Melbourne, Australia, due to the lack of quarantine issues for non-equestrian sports. Matilda Maniac (talk) 13:47, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- Even if we exclude the continental races (which doesn't make sense, as the EU flag is used in other sports like the Ryder Cup to signify Europe), then we're still left with the issues of San Marino's GP with Italian flags and Luxembourg's GP with the German flag? Surely that's only adding needless ambiguity? Does this mean that for equestrian articles, we should show the 1956 Melbourne Olympics with a Swedish flag, as the equestrian events were held there due to quarantine issues? - J man708 (talk) 12:13, 3 April 2017 (UTC)
- It is better to say that it should be up to anyone who wants to change the consensus to research the previous discussions before bringing up any proposals, and that the likelihood of any new angle on the discussion being brought to light will be a function of that research, and that will then be considered at that point in time. Matilda Maniac (talk) 10:36, 3 April 2017 (UTC)