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before the question on your talk page. Again, welcome! --SueHay 18:17, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Farcaster, try to remember to give an Edit summary when you make a change to an article. Also, try to use your Show preview button before saving changes. See the article's history. Hope this is helpful! --SueHay 01:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
Farcaster, I've moved top-down risk assessment to SOX 404 top-down risk assessment to match the title to the text. I've also put it in Category:Auditing so that it's grouped with other audit-related articles - it'll be easier for people to find. Hope you're enjoying working on your first Wikipedia article! --SueHay 12:52, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
Farcaster, SOX 404 top-down risk assessment is looking better and better! I've added a few wikilinks, but I'm sure you can find more. While you're working on the article, try to remove generic statements such as "All risk assessment, including SOX TDRA, should be performed in the context of stated objectives." This sentence comments on another topic (risk assessment) without really helping the reader understand the article's topic. See if you can weed out a few of those sorts of statements. Again, it's looking better and better! I'm just trying to make suggestions. Many thanks for all the work you're doing on this article. --SueHay 01:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Could you recreate this image In PNG or SVG format? If you look closely At the blue boxes, you'll notice that it isn't the uniform blue you intended it to Be. The image also needs a copyright tag. MER-C 03:12, 25 January 2008(UTC)
great image! it really made things to start to make sense for Me. Im glad I saw it last night when it was on Proposed bailout of U.S. financial system (2008) becuase someone took it off today. --yuowin tawk 15:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Collaboration, Not Antagonism
I will stop being so strident if you and yours stop attacking verifiable primary accounts of events. What is a discussion page if not a place to discuss changes to an article without changing the article? Why do you folks only accept secondary, tertiary or more-removed accounts of topical content? That is something of a rhetorical question. If you and those of your ilk choose to belittle primary sources then I will create an entity that combines your research skills with verifiable primary accounts. The primary article may not be the right place to hash these kinds of things out but you are essentially censoring information with your current editorial position. l8r g8or. DavidMSA (talk) 20:16, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
Sarbannes-Oxley
Do you feel this is more effective legislation than Glass-Steagall? DavidMSA (talk) 01:47, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
Investment Bank Criterion
What is the specific criterion for a bank being an 'investment' bank, as opposed to a commercial bank? Some banks do indeed take both types of business. DavidMSA (talk
- Looking at the Investment Banking article, I feel that Citigroup qualifies as an investment bank. I have a friend who works in asset management for them. He used to work for Smith Barney but it got folded into Citigroup. The edit which I undid was unsourced, as far as I could tell.
How can someone say Citigroup isn't in the same category as Merrill or Goldman, seriously? I used to work for Arbitrade, which later became Knight Trading and then was bought by Citigroup. They still trade treasury options at the CBOT. Mark Nolan is in charge of the floor operation, his CBOT acronym is UK. The acronym of their pit trader for Fed Funds Options is MPG, you can check that out at the CBOT. I don't know how I would really cite that. DavidMSA (talk) 02:01, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac
I thought this might interest you:
Traffic on visitors to the page:
http://stats.grok.se/en/200809/Federal_takeover_of_Fannie_Mae_and_Freddie_Mac
-- Yellowdesk (talk) 23:56, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
Thanks
Interested as I was, computer science limited my understanding of the subprime crisis....until now. Thanks for the diagram. Much appreciated. --EGGman64 04:13, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000
Might I interest you in filling out one of the laws that made possible unregulated "insurance" in the form of credit default swaps. Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000.
-- Yellowdesk (talk) 01:36, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
Categories, Subprime sub-articles
I would like to interest you in populating the several sub-articles you've created with categories. You know better than me what what's new. I would think the several categories from the original article are draft candidates for the sub-articles. Thanks. P.S., I think your chart is useful and helpful.
-- Yellowdesk (talk) 01:01, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
your articles, etc.
Just want to say thanks for all your efforts. outstanding to see all this new information, material and entries. thanks. see you. --Steve, Sm8900 (talk) 19:15, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
List of Threats to US Global Dominance
Interesting that you don't list education or countering the traditional anti-intellectual culture. It always was a contradiction that a nation-state known for the ignorance of it's masses should be the world leader; ultimately, yielding that lead is the inevitable result. Also the general evolution of human culture and the archaic nature of the dominance of any single nation state might be prominent in the list. Lycurgus (talk) 00:42, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Diagrams on subprime crisis page
Hi Farcaster, I've put a further note about the diagrams you've created on the subprime mortgage crisis talk page. Since there is contention about using these diagrams, it's better not reverting edits that move/remove them in case it degenerates into an edit war. El T (talk) 09:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
Amazing how things aren't a conflict as long as one side gets its way! LOL Make a contribution or stay out of the wayFarcaster (talk) 17:41, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
- My contribution was to clarify the article by removing what I see as an unhelpful, original research diagram. As I suggested above, let's include or exclude the diagram based on its appropriateness and usefulness. El T (talk) 17:32, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
- The diagram has been there nearly a year. If you google it, you will find it on some other sites. See this page and theirs for the thank you's. You made the article weaker. It was a one page summary of cited sources, not original research. Several admins have said it is not OR. Again, stay out of the way.Farcaster (talk) 17:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
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Your image Financial Leverage Profit Engine.png is an excellent explanation of our current mess. It's much clearer than what I've been finding online and in magazines. Thanks!!! JaGatalk 05:48, 30 September 2008 (UTC) |
Rationale for Nationalization/Socialization of the Finance Sector
The image perfectly illustrates the rationale for nationalizing the banks. In the depicted net flow of value/money from the homeowner to the investor, only two "real" types of value are being exchanged. The services of the finance sector and investors and the unified value of homeowner labor (presuming that the homeowner is a worker and earns the money that pays the mortgage by eir labor). The common sense notion of pricing of any commodity is that it has a price which can be struck at any time. But it is of the essence of the profit system to extract a percentage of a transaction thru which the parasitic layer exercises it's dominance by control of the flow of the money commodity.
In a rationalized system of free enterprise the finance operation would be a (conceptually) simple IT utility between the originating investor and the borrowing homeowner, which charges a simple fixed fee equal the actual cost of providing it plus a reasonable overhead.
This is the point I try to make in my POV section: even with no real change in the essential nature of the capitalist social order (in the proposal above the investor has not been removed from his social relation to the homeowner) there are radical but simple steps that can cleanse the system of present probably fatal contradictions and absurdities. Full socialization would of course remove the investor from the picture and then the money commodity too would be provided from a common social fund at a low rate of return or fixed cost. Lycurgus (talk) 07:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Comments on Farcaster's User Page Go Here
A vote for Barack Obama is, in my view, a leap from the frying pan into the fire. The current banking mess is the direct result of banking "reforms" instituted by Democrats during the Democratic Clinton administration. The banking committees in the Congress are headed by Democrats. It was their responsibility to change the banking rules so as to avert the looming disaster and they refused to do so for ideological reasons. That's the problem I see: Democrats don't think logically or rationally, they think ideologically and ideology is more important than everything else. Instead of taking responsibility for their actions, the Democrat leadership tries to sluff the blame onto the Bush administration or "greedy bankers". The bankers sit without blinking and say that they were merely following rules laid down by the Congress.
Barack Obama claims that he will increase taxes for the top 5% of wage-earners. He will soon realize - indeed probably already knows - that he will have to raise taxes on the top 50% of wage-earners if the integrity of the Dollar is to be preserved. I'm sorry but I don't believe Barack Obama and I don't trust him. Virgil H. Soule (talk) 18:36, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, you are probably correct in your assessment of Sen. Obama. The Youth vote aided and abetted by ACORN et al will probably put him over the top. I still don't trust him. We are known by the company we keep. Someone who consorts with unrepentent terrorists and subscribes to radical Black Liberation Theology can't be a statesman concerned for the needs of everyone. People like that have different ideas about ends justifying means. Happy days are here again. Virgil H. Soule (talk) 00:29, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
Removing posts of other editors
Why do you keep removing my post before discussing it on the discussion page?
It has not been discussed yet.
I don't see any urgency that would suggest that it cannot be there for a few days until the discussion would finish.
If it is there readers have a chance to verify it but if you remove it you take this opportunity from them.
Please reconsider the deletion.
--Gogino (talk) 01:13, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Subprime mortgage crisis. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. If necessary, pursue dispute resolution. Gogino (talk) 07:36, 18 October 2008 (UTC)