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Darkknight2149's not taking things well ... [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hijiri88&diff=prev&oldid=762146590][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Darkknight2149&diff=prev&oldid=762147908] [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 03:32, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
Darkknight2149's not taking things well ... [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hijiri88&diff=prev&oldid=762146590][https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Darkknight2149&diff=prev&oldid=762147908] [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 03:32, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
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:Showing up two weeks later and laughing at the idea that anyone could have thought he hadn't dropped the stick is ... actually kinda funny, but for the wrong reason. He reverted his own comment on my talk page, which I would try to assume he realized it was inappropriate, except that he claimed it was because it was not "necessary". I asked him for clarificafion, which I hope will lead to his apologizing and properly strikingnthe comment rather than just laiming it isn't "necessary", but if he doubles down ... well, I don't really care. He can think I've got some beef with him if he likes; I don't, and that's all that matters to me. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 04:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
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:: From his performance at [[Talk:Joker (comics)]], the AfD, and at ANI, I expect him to double down. He's going to be a major roadblock in cleaning up the mess at WP:COMICS. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 05:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
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:::Well, if you need someone to back up your claims that he dismissed or downplayed non-comics influence on ''Batman'' characters, canvassed, and engaged in some pretty blatant IDHT behaviour, you know who to call. I'm gonna be focusing on Chinese poetry for the next while, though. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 06:12, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
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:::: The discussion'll end up being more general than what's happening on any particular character's page, and will probably end up at the Village Pump. I'm expecting more along the lines of endless IDHT nonsense drowning the conversation, and repeated insistence that characters are subsests of their appearances in comics. The wider community won't go for it, but it'll be time-consuming and obnoxious nonetheless. |
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:::: Hey, do you actually read Chinese? [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 09:00, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::Not really. I know about as much [[kanbun|classical Chinese]] as the average Japanese university student who isn't majoring in Japanese literature or anything to do with China, and I took a colloquial Mandarin class for a semester in college. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 09:37, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
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[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Hijiri88&diff=762262496&oldid=762177035 Yeah,] nothing's gonna get better. Now I've supposedly called for him to be blocked. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 22:49, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
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::Me too. But per [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AHijiri88&type=revision&diff=762305037&oldid=762292467 these two edits] he appears to be at least capable of claiming that he's dropped the stick without in the same comment obviously indicating that he hasn't dropped the stick. I think it would be best for all of us to just forget about it at this point. If you bring something up at the village pump, don't mention the previous canvassing incident unless he canvasses again. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 00:24, 28 January 2017 (UTC) |
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::: It won't be me taking it to the Village Pump—it'll be someone like SMcCandlish who knowns more about the wider community & MoS issues. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 02:48, 28 January 2017 (UTC) |
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: And [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Drmies&diff=762292329&oldid=762291062 threats to pick up the stick again at ANI.] Good luck with that, DarkKnight (who's obviously watching)! [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 22:54, 27 January 2017 (UTC) |
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::Per the diff above, I think he's finally calmed down and is sincerely interested in dropping the stick. If he takes anything to ANI at this point, no one will take it seriously, especially if you explicitly state as I am now doing that you're not interested in talking about this anymore. [[User:Hijiri88|Hijiri 88]] (<small>[[User talk:Hijiri88|聖]][[Special:Contributions/Hijiri88|やや]]</small>) 00:24, 28 January 2017 (UTC) |
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::: I'm just keeping this stuff on the record. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 02:48, 28 January 2017 (UTC) |
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:::: "''Good luck, Darkknight!''" - Oh, just drop it already. "One more question" was intended to be my last dog in this flamewar. Why, do I ''need'' to take this to ANI? Right now, I don't plan on doing so, unless my hand is somehow forced. '''[[User:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">Dark</span>]][[User talk:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:black;">Knight</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">2149</span>]]''' 18:12, 29 January 2017 (UTC) |
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::::: "Drop it", he says two days after the last comment. I'm documenting behavioural issues that are obviously going to play in interfering with attampts to clean up a problem we've had for years. Please, take it to ANI. It'll be more documentation on how disruptive you intend to be. [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 21:38, 29 January 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::: Oh, I'm sorry I didn't edit yesterday (sarcasm). And you pretty much just admitted ''again'' that the only reason you're making false claims is because you disagree with me in a discussion (or rather, you're continuing to assume that [[WP:COMICS]] opinions are my opinions). |
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:::::: Do I need to take this to [[WP:ANI]]? Because you're incriminating yourself at this point. And the fact that you're continuing to keep this going after the argument between me and Hijiri88 wrapped shows the hypocrisy in your statement. '''[[User:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">Dark</span>]][[User talk:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:black;">Knight</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">2149</span>]]''' 22:44, 29 January 2017 (UTC) |
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::::::: You need to learn the difference between disruptive behaviour (AKA what you're doing) and people simply disagreeing with you. '''[[User:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">Dark</span>]][[User talk:Darkknight2149|<span style="color:black;">Knight</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Darkknight2149|<span style="color:grey;">2149</span>]]''' 22:48, 29 January 2017 (UTC) |
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:::::::: So fucking well take it to ANI already. Fucking Christ ... [[User:Curly Turkey|Curly "JFC" Turkey]] <span style="color:red">🍁</span> [[User talk:Curly Turkey|''¡gobble!'']] 02:35, 30 January 2017 (UTC) |
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Ryukyu
Hi Curly, I noticed you've been doing copy-edits to a lot of Ryukyu/Okinawa articles, so I'm wondering if you'd like to help me with a rewriting. Please read Talk:Scholar-officials of the Ryukyu Kingdom#Hall of Shame for the full issue. Basically, an article grew out of its scope and only after a revert/move war was another article of the proper scope found to already exist. So our goals would be to recreate the Pechin article with a more narrow scope, merge Yukatchu into Scholar-officials of the Ryukyu Kingdom, and create a Military of the Ryukyu Kingdom article. Would you feel up to helping me with this? ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 04:55, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- I can help with technical things such as copyediting and organizing, but I don't know anything about the topic (or much about Ryukyu), so content-wise I'd be pretty limited. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:02, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- If you need access to sources, I've got Wiki-access to JSTOR, Project MUSE, EBSCO, and a bunch of others (waiting on reactivation of my Questia account). Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:05, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Sturmgewehr88: Holy fuck—just read through the conversation. Whatever issues there are to clear up, dai-ichi would be be this Nanshu character and his bizarre ideas about language (Randy in Boise never understands that he's Randy in Boise, per the Dunning–Kruger effect). As for titling—is there a ja.wp article on the topic? Perhaps that could point out a way. These days I've taken to untranslated titles, as the translated ones can cause problems—for example, I kept on running into different translations of Zashiki Hakkei and each of the prints in the series, so I decided to use the originals and a gloss rather than make an arbitrary decision about which translation to "make official", or load up the article with every translation I could find.
I'll take a peak at the articles LordAmeth linked to over the break, but it might take me a few days—I'm supposed to go skiing for the next couple days (unless my youngest doesn't stop puking all over the place). Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:28, 29 December 2016 (UTC)- Thank you! Someone finally realizes what I'm dealing with.. JA Wiki has 琉球の位階, which has the content of the article as of now. Yukatchu (良人) is the Okinawan term for the group, but JA Wiki barely mentions it. I have a source (Smits' Visions of Ryukyu in the glossary) that uses Yukatchu though, and I'm more inclined to use that as the title.
I have university access to JSTOR, but I'll take anything you have to offer. I'm trying to get as much done before I go on a short trip to DC on the 4th, but skiing and puking sounds exciting too! ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 06:00, 29 December 2016 (UTC)- If you're not in a rush, I could stop by the library one of these days and see if there are any good sources on this stuff. It might be a bit hard, though, because I don't really know well what I'm looking for. Would Court Ranks in Ryukyu or something like that be an inappropriate title? Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:12, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not in a rush at all. If you're looking for something that's in Japanese, look for Iha Fuyū 伊波普猷 and Uezato Takashi 上里隆史. In English, Mitsugu and Smits as LordAmeth suggested, but also George Kerr. Uezato and Smits are the most recent and least biased. "Court ranks" is basically what JA Wiki did, so that is a possibility. I'm leaning more towards Yukatchu now because, as the native name, it has a certain meaning. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 06:52, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Oh, I had it in my head that you wanted a separate article in addition to the Yukatchu one. If that term covers it, stick with it. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:56, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Not in a rush at all. If you're looking for something that's in Japanese, look for Iha Fuyū 伊波普猷 and Uezato Takashi 上里隆史. In English, Mitsugu and Smits as LordAmeth suggested, but also George Kerr. Uezato and Smits are the most recent and least biased. "Court ranks" is basically what JA Wiki did, so that is a possibility. I'm leaning more towards Yukatchu now because, as the native name, it has a certain meaning. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 06:52, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- If you're not in a rush, I could stop by the library one of these days and see if there are any good sources on this stuff. It might be a bit hard, though, because I don't really know well what I'm looking for. Would Court Ranks in Ryukyu or something like that be an inappropriate title? Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:12, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
- Thank you! Someone finally realizes what I'm dealing with.. JA Wiki has 琉球の位階, which has the content of the article as of now. Yukatchu (良人) is the Okinawan term for the group, but JA Wiki barely mentions it. I have a source (Smits' Visions of Ryukyu in the glossary) that uses Yukatchu though, and I'm more inclined to use that as the title.
- Sturmgewehr88: Holy fuck—just read through the conversation. Whatever issues there are to clear up, dai-ichi would be be this Nanshu character and his bizarre ideas about language (Randy in Boise never understands that he's Randy in Boise, per the Dunning–Kruger effect). As for titling—is there a ja.wp article on the topic? Perhaps that could point out a way. These days I've taken to untranslated titles, as the translated ones can cause problems—for example, I kept on running into different translations of Zashiki Hakkei and each of the prints in the series, so I decided to use the originals and a gloss rather than make an arbitrary decision about which translation to "make official", or load up the article with every translation I could find.
- If you need access to sources, I've got Wiki-access to JSTOR, Project MUSE, EBSCO, and a bunch of others (waiting on reactivation of my Questia account). Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:05, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
So I dove back into this and now I'm drowning myself by getting sidetracked. I've gotten a lot done so far, although almost none of it has been with the Pechin or Yukatchu articles. I also just realized that Okinawa Shrine was created a month ago when I went to create it today. But progress is being made! I'm almost done with the history section for Military of the Ryukyu Kingdom. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 10:41, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
- You have been doing a lot of work! I think I'm going to hold off getting involved for maybe a week or two, though—I took out a couple of huge, awkward art books from the library to use during the break, and I think I want to get as much done with them as I can before I have to take them back.
A couple things: is "Yomitanzan" correct? I don't see that in the Yomitan article. Also, I've left a message on the talk page of the user who created File:Ryukyu Kingdoms of Sanzan era.jpg, asking for a version with romanized labels, but it looks like the user hasn't edited in nearly three years. It would be nice to find a graphics person who could do that. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 23:16, 31 December 2016 (UTC)- Yes, Japan just dropped the "-zan" character in 1907 when they abolished the magiri. I could add this to the Yomitan article (Ryukyu Kuniezu and Chuzan Seikan confirm it if you need a source). And you want the English for the castles right? And I noticed that that map is missing a handful of castles, it's also very difficult to find the exact locations of some of them. But Happy New Year! ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 04:15, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- あけおめ! Not necessarily English for the map, but romaization for those who don't read kanji. It'd be a very good idea to add something about "-zan" to the Yomitan aritcle, for those of us who click through and are left with question marks hanging over our heads. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:32, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Done with Yomitan, and I wrote history sections for a few other Okinawan municipalities while I was at it. The APJ:JF website got hacked, so if they haven't cleared it up yet you can see the amusement the hackers left: http://apjjf.org/-Gregory-Smits/3409/article.html ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 07:31, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- The fuck? I couldn't go back, or even switch tabs—I had to restart my browser. What's the APJ:JF supposed to be? Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:50, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Hmm, didn't do that to me. It's the Asia-Pacific Journal's Japan-related articles, and that website is where they post them. I was about to use Smits' article there for the rest of the Ryukyuan military article, then the site was hacked and replaced by that screen. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 08:36, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Fun fact: the hacked page autoplays an Indonesian song about Dahlia flowers. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 08:44, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- High-larious. Do you have an URL for the article? You might be able to find it at the Wayback Machine. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- The fuck? I couldn't go back, or even switch tabs—I had to restart my browser. What's the APJ:JF supposed to be? Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:50, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- Done with Yomitan, and I wrote history sections for a few other Okinawan municipalities while I was at it. The APJ:JF website got hacked, so if they haven't cleared it up yet you can see the amusement the hackers left: http://apjjf.org/-Gregory-Smits/3409/article.html ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 07:31, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
- あけおめ! Not necessarily English for the map, but romaization for those who don't read kanji. It'd be a very good idea to add something about "-zan" to the Yomitan aritcle, for those of us who click through and are left with question marks hanging over our heads. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:32, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, Japan just dropped the "-zan" character in 1907 when they abolished the magiri. I could add this to the Yomitan article (Ryukyu Kuniezu and Chuzan Seikan confirm it if you need a source). And you want the English for the castles right? And I noticed that that map is missing a handful of castles, it's also very difficult to find the exact locations of some of them. But Happy New Year! ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 04:15, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
I just finished the history and organization sections for the military article; I added images under the weapons section but I haven't written anything yet; the karate section is also blank. I'm taking a trip to DC until Wednesday, so I won't be able to edit until then. The Yukatchu rewrite is next on my to-do list. Thanks for c/e the article for me! ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 05:48, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- Are you sure you want a section on just karate, rather than a more general one on Okinawan martial arts? Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 06:21, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
- I just saw this, and I altered the section a bit. I've also moved most of the Scholar-officials of the Ryukyu Kingdom to Yukatchu, but it's a bit of a mess even with some copy edits. The original author of the Yukatchu and Pechin articles didn't really use inline citations, but left all of their sources in a bibliography instead. I also can't physically move the page back to Pechin because of some technical reason, but I've requested a page move. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 06:59, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- That's frustrating. do you have access to those sources? If not, can you cite the stuff to the sources you have? If it's a hassle enough to work with what's there, there's nothing wrong with rewriting it from scratch—I've done that enough times. Sounds like more work, but sometimes it's actually easier. Work it up in a sandbox and when it's substantial enough, just cut-'n'-paste it over. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- It looks like Talk:Scholar-officials of the Ryukyu Kingdom has been deleted rather than moved, so the links Lord Ameth left are gone. Do you have them? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:29, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- Actually I do have access to those sources, they're in my university library. I'll just check them out for the weekend. I think it might be easier to just reorganize the article and find references for the (technically) uncited statements. And the only link LordAmeth provided, if I remember right, was to that article that I heavily cited for the military article. I will need the book on the Ryukyuan government that he mentioned though, but I should be able to get that in about a week. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 15:14, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- It looks like Talk:Scholar-officials of the Ryukyu Kingdom has been deleted rather than moved, so the links Lord Ameth left are gone. Do you have them? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 10:29, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- That's frustrating. do you have access to those sources? If not, can you cite the stuff to the sources you have? If it's a hassle enough to work with what's there, there's nothing wrong with rewriting it from scratch—I've done that enough times. Sounds like more work, but sometimes it's actually easier. Work it up in a sandbox and when it's substantial enough, just cut-'n'-paste it over. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 07:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- I just saw this, and I altered the section a bit. I've also moved most of the Scholar-officials of the Ryukyu Kingdom to Yukatchu, but it's a bit of a mess even with some copy edits. The original author of the Yukatchu and Pechin articles didn't really use inline citations, but left all of their sources in a bibliography instead. I also can't physically move the page back to Pechin because of some technical reason, but I've requested a page move. ミーラー強斗武 (StG88ぬ会話) 06:59, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
'Twas but a single click on Huggle. I've been noticing the edits on that article. I thought I had done a few more reverts and warnings, but must have been preempted... Cheers Jim1138 (talk) 19:41, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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Happy New Year 2017!
To you and yours! May you have a happy, prosperous and joyous one! God bless! — Ssven2 Looking at you, kid 12:39, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
A kitten for you!
Happy new year, Turkey, and thanks for keeping an eye out.
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Composers
Bach, Handel, Beethoven, Verdi, Max Reger, Philip Glass and countless unnoticed others, such as Oskar Gottlieb Blarr, DYK yesterday, 12k+ hits, - and no READER ever protested. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 11:26, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Yeah, well, I'm not taking a position, I'm just pointing out poor reasoning. I'm in two minds about infoboxes—I'd rather have them (to serve different audiences with different purposes and contexts), but I don't trust the people in control of them, forcing info into them that shouldn't be there. I ran into those problems with the fascists controlling WP:NOVELS, then again with the people implementing the template code. I decided I'd had enough and stopped using them, but I still disagree entirely with WP:DISINFOBOX. I also get sick of the disinfoboxers' overinflated regard for their own prose. Of course, I write mainly articles nobody reads in the first place, so I don't have to worry about an infobox "distracting" from my beautiful prose Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:14, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- I was pleasantly surpised when one of my obscurities went from an average of 36 pageviews a day to being my fourth highest-viewed TFA, despite not having a graphic with the mainpage summary. I have to wonder what drew 40K people to this one that day. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 12:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
- Thank you! Congrats for the stats, more to the attention the article deserves. - You are not the only one disagreeing with the dated "Disinfobox", - see? - Would you have time for a FAC, with an infobox, naturally? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 17:43, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
Wolverine (character)
I recently saw the AfD for Joker (character) and I remember we had a lengthy exchange about Wolverine (character). However after looking over Joker (character), I actually don't mind it and was wondering if we could do the same thing to Wolverine (character). That is: move the article back to Wolverine (comics) and create a separate set index linking to various adaptions of the character in other media at Wolverine (character). Thoughts?--TriiipleThreat (talk) 18:48, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- There's no problem with the idea of two such articles per se, but (comics) as a disambiguator is problematic. For one, "Wolverine IS-A comics" doesn't work, and for another, it would get confused with Wolverine (comic book). I think you'll find resistance to having an index as a base article, though. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 19:15, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- On that note, you should be sure it warrants multiple articles in the first place. If everything would fit in one comprehensive article, then it probably should. I'm not familiar enough with the character to say (I read Wolverine for maybe a year and a half in my tweens, and haven't seen any of his "other media" appearances). The "Fictional character biography" looks pretty crufty. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:16, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
- Speaking directly to TriiipleThreat, it would be wise to wait for the result at Joker (character) before taking that into serious consideration. DarkKnight2149 01:23, 12 January 2017 (UTC)
- On that note, you should be sure it warrants multiple articles in the first place. If everything would fit in one comprehensive article, then it probably should. I'm not familiar enough with the character to say (I read Wolverine for maybe a year and a half in my tweens, and haven't seen any of his "other media" appearances). The "Fictional character biography" looks pretty crufty. Curly "the jerk" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 20:16, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
I have started the article
About the Abduction of Kamiyah Mobley.BabbaQ (talk) 17:32, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
玄諦
How would you transliterate 玄諦? Happy new year from freezing Saijo!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:21, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- I assume it's a name? If it is, it looks like it can read Gentei, but I wouldn't put any money on guessing the reading of a name. Happy New Year from the colder-than-usual Shizuoka! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:33, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Books and Bytes - Issue 20
Books & Bytes
Issue 20, November-December 2016
by Nikkimaria (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs), UY Scuti (talk · contribs), Samwalton9 (talk · contribs)
- Partner resource expansions
- New search tool for finding TWL resources
- #1lib1ref 2017
- Wikidata Visiting Scholar
MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 23:59, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
Headaches on the way ...
Darkknight2149's not taking things well ... [2][3] Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 03:32, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- Showing up two weeks later and laughing at the idea that anyone could have thought he hadn't dropped the stick is ... actually kinda funny, but for the wrong reason. He reverted his own comment on my talk page, which I would try to assume he realized it was inappropriate, except that he claimed it was because it was not "necessary". I asked him for clarificafion, which I hope will lead to his apologizing and properly strikingnthe comment rather than just laiming it isn't "necessary", but if he doubles down ... well, I don't really care. He can think I've got some beef with him if he likes; I don't, and that's all that matters to me. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 04:58, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- From his performance at Talk:Joker (comics), the AfD, and at ANI, I expect him to double down. He's going to be a major roadblock in cleaning up the mess at WP:COMICS. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- Well, if you need someone to back up your claims that he dismissed or downplayed non-comics influence on Batman characters, canvassed, and engaged in some pretty blatant IDHT behaviour, you know who to call. I'm gonna be focusing on Chinese poetry for the next while, though. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:12, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- The discussion'll end up being more general than what's happening on any particular character's page, and will probably end up at the Village Pump. I'm expecting more along the lines of endless IDHT nonsense drowning the conversation, and repeated insistence that characters are subsests of their appearances in comics. The wider community won't go for it, but it'll be time-consuming and obnoxious nonetheless.
- Hey, do you actually read Chinese? Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 09:00, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- Not really. I know about as much classical Chinese as the average Japanese university student who isn't majoring in Japanese literature or anything to do with China, and I took a colloquial Mandarin class for a semester in college. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 09:37, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- Well, if you need someone to back up your claims that he dismissed or downplayed non-comics influence on Batman characters, canvassed, and engaged in some pretty blatant IDHT behaviour, you know who to call. I'm gonna be focusing on Chinese poetry for the next while, though. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 06:12, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- From his performance at Talk:Joker (comics), the AfD, and at ANI, I expect him to double down. He's going to be a major roadblock in cleaning up the mess at WP:COMICS. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 05:13, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, nothing's gonna get better. Now I've supposedly called for him to be blocked. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:49, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- Me too. But per these two edits he appears to be at least capable of claiming that he's dropped the stick without in the same comment obviously indicating that he hasn't dropped the stick. I think it would be best for all of us to just forget about it at this point. If you bring something up at the village pump, don't mention the previous canvassing incident unless he canvasses again. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:24, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- It won't be me taking it to the Village Pump—it'll be someone like SMcCandlish who knowns more about the wider community & MoS issues. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 02:48, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- Me too. But per these two edits he appears to be at least capable of claiming that he's dropped the stick without in the same comment obviously indicating that he hasn't dropped the stick. I think it would be best for all of us to just forget about it at this point. If you bring something up at the village pump, don't mention the previous canvassing incident unless he canvasses again. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:24, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- And threats to pick up the stick again at ANI. Good luck with that, DarkKnight (who's obviously watching)! Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 22:54, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
- Per the diff above, I think he's finally calmed down and is sincerely interested in dropping the stick. If he takes anything to ANI at this point, no one will take it seriously, especially if you explicitly state as I am now doing that you're not interested in talking about this anymore. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:24, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- I'm just keeping this stuff on the record. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 02:48, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- "Good luck, Darkknight!" - Oh, just drop it already. "One more question" was intended to be my last dog in this flamewar. Why, do I need to take this to ANI? Right now, I don't plan on doing so, unless my hand is somehow forced. DarkKnight2149 18:12, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- "Drop it", he says two days after the last comment. I'm documenting behavioural issues that are obviously going to play in interfering with attampts to clean up a problem we've had for years. Please, take it to ANI. It'll be more documentation on how disruptive you intend to be. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:38, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, I'm sorry I didn't edit yesterday (sarcasm). And you pretty much just admitted again that the only reason you're making false claims is because you disagree with me in a discussion (or rather, you're continuing to assume that WP:COMICS opinions are my opinions).
- Do I need to take this to WP:ANI? Because you're incriminating yourself at this point. And the fact that you're continuing to keep this going after the argument between me and Hijiri88 wrapped shows the hypocrisy in your statement. DarkKnight2149 22:44, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- You need to learn the difference between disruptive behaviour (AKA what you're doing) and people simply disagreeing with you. DarkKnight2149 22:48, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- So fucking well take it to ANI already. Fucking Christ ... Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 02:35, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
- You need to learn the difference between disruptive behaviour (AKA what you're doing) and people simply disagreeing with you. DarkKnight2149 22:48, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- "Drop it", he says two days after the last comment. I'm documenting behavioural issues that are obviously going to play in interfering with attampts to clean up a problem we've had for years. Please, take it to ANI. It'll be more documentation on how disruptive you intend to be. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 21:38, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- "Good luck, Darkknight!" - Oh, just drop it already. "One more question" was intended to be my last dog in this flamewar. Why, do I need to take this to ANI? Right now, I don't plan on doing so, unless my hand is somehow forced. DarkKnight2149 18:12, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
- I'm just keeping this stuff on the record. Curly "JFC" Turkey 🍁 ¡gobble! 02:48, 28 January 2017 (UTC)
- Per the diff above, I think he's finally calmed down and is sincerely interested in dropping the stick. If he takes anything to ANI at this point, no one will take it seriously, especially if you explicitly state as I am now doing that you're not interested in talking about this anymore. Hijiri 88 (聖やや) 00:24, 28 January 2017 (UTC)