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Please stop reverting your addition back in without discussion on [[Western Asia]]. It's a pure violation of [[WP:BRD]], and you yourself have [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AComtesseDeMingrelie&action=historysubmit&diff=419016746&oldid=418991852 once stated] that edits should be discussed first. Which you have not. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|Chipmunkdavis]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 07:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC) |
Please stop reverting your addition back in without discussion on [[Western Asia]]. It's a pure violation of [[WP:BRD]], and you yourself have [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AComtesseDeMingrelie&action=historysubmit&diff=419016746&oldid=418991852 once stated] that edits should be discussed first. Which you have not. [[User:Chipmunkdavis|Chipmunkdavis]] ([[User talk:Chipmunkdavis|talk]]) 07:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:When one can make it clear in the edit summaries why the edit occurs, I see no need for further discussion. I am not going to discuss every time I insert a comma. Discussion is just your way of making everything drag on indefinitely so that nothing that goes against your views is written.--[[User:ComtesseDeMingrelie|<font color="Blue">'''''ComtesseDeMingrélie'''''</font>]] 07:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC) |
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Hi, your signature appears to be contrary to the guideline on signatures because it contains an image. WP:SIG#Images expressly forbids the use of images in signatures, for a list of reasons you can see there. If you could alter it to exclude the image or to use unicode characters instead, it would be much appreciated. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 01:31, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
- Ok, I have changed it.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 02:10, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
Haplogroup J2
About the 72% figure for Northeast Georgia- the figure is given by the Nasidze 2004 study, so at least it deserves mention. Furthermore, the % is much higher than those of Chechens on average and Ingush on average- though I suspect the southern, mountainous regions of Chechenia and Ingushetia have much more J2. Dagestanis usually have mostly J1 and very little if any J2... Furthermore, I would assume that Nasidze et al were professional enough in their study not to do diaspora populations (though I might note that the Georgians- the Tush, the Khevsurs, the Pshavs and so on- of the region vastly outnumber more recent migrants). Thus, I've reverted your edit on that note... do you have any objections? --Yalens (talk) 23:42, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- Also, forgot to mention. Generally, for haplogroup pages, the convention is to put the highest percentages at the top, rather than alphabetize. --Yalens (talk) 23:44, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
- I didn't really edit it much and yes, I suppose it wasn't EXACTLY by highest first originally, because its hard to figure out how to do stuff with varying frequencies in different studies... but if you look on other such pages, that's generally the rule- unless its one of those, like J1 for example, that do only macrogroups (if we were going to do that for J2, we would say Eastern Mediterraneans, Semites, Nakh and South Caucasians, or something along those lines). But for now, I'd let you have the alphabetic way, as it is a little easier to navigate. And also, I have made note of NE Georgia because in Nasidze's study, he didn't include NE Georgia and the Svans (who have 0% by the way) with the rest of Georgia, as it is better to make note of the detail so that the page can be most informative.--Yalens (talk) 22:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
You don't get it, do you?
- a) You don't copy-paste articles when moving them. This way it messes up the article history and the associated talk page's location.
- b) The "discussion" there isn't even a discussion and is super-old.
- c) The first move could be considered to fall under WP:BOLD, but now it is contested you don't just redo it, but discuss it!
Does this make it clear? --JorisvS (talk) 18:09, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- If my move was done badly, you do it correctly. Blank-reverting every single change I made is an easy way out and I do not agree with it. I tried to move the page as I usually do but it did not let me, this is why I had to do it manually. I did not start playing with wikipedia a couple of days ago.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 18:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- So you copy-paste it?? No, you engage in a move discussion, and if then there forms a consensus to move it an administrator will execute the move. And I'm contesting the move, so I restore the stable version, not "do it correctly". You don't just redo a move away from a stable version twice when contested, so cut the crap and DISCUSS! By moving the page this way, and a full three times, you sure make it look like you've "just started playing with Wikipedia". --JorisvS (talk) 18:27, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Being unhappy with the move DOES NOT WARRANT the removal of legitimate edits. Do not just CLICK THE BUTTON to revert. I demand that you restore all other changes that did not involve the move/renaming.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 18:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Demand?? I'm clicking the undo button because I'm restoring (reverting to!) the stable version, that's what the button is for. And if you request a move, you don't re-copy-paste-move it, you wait. --JorisvS (talk) 18:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Let me repeat it again. Whatever you think I did wrong by moving the page, removal of legitimate edits was unwarranted. End of the story.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 18:55, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Demand?? I'm clicking the undo button because I'm restoring (reverting to!) the stable version, that's what the button is for. And if you request a move, you don't re-copy-paste-move it, you wait. --JorisvS (talk) 18:50, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Being unhappy with the move DOES NOT WARRANT the removal of legitimate edits. Do not just CLICK THE BUTTON to revert. I demand that you restore all other changes that did not involve the move/renaming.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 18:30, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- So you copy-paste it?? No, you engage in a move discussion, and if then there forms a consensus to move it an administrator will execute the move. And I'm contesting the move, so I restore the stable version, not "do it correctly". You don't just redo a move away from a stable version twice when contested, so cut the crap and DISCUSS! By moving the page this way, and a full three times, you sure make it look like you've "just started playing with Wikipedia". --JorisvS (talk) 18:27, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Of course, then your talk page will be clean while mine will be full of this filth, demonizing me while portraying yourself like an angel. When you reverted the changes, you mentioned that only the move/the method of moving was contested. If you contested the good-faith edits, you should have said that but you did not. You invented this now after realizing that doing the revert manually would represent an undue hardship for you.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 19:11, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
Please see my comments at Talk:South Caucasian languages#Requested move. Dpmuk (talk) 23:40, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Also please by aware of the 3RR rule - doing more than 3 reverts in 24 hours can get you blocked. Dpmuk (talk) 23:47, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I do not need to be reminded of that, thank you.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 08:27, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
Georgian map
If you want to put a map of whole country of Georgia, so going to discuss with theme. Abkhazia and South Ossetia recognized countries by some UN countries, like Kosovo and future country Southern Sudan, so we must see the facts, but not political, ethnic and radical views of some people. EGroup (talk) 20:48, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- If you look closely, the map I included separates Abkhazia and S. Ossetia with a dotted line. It is not necessary to have all the rainbow colors in the map, after all it is there to show the location of Georgia, and not its possible internal divisions.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 00:05, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
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Stop
Stop!. The Mingrelian language is spoken Abkhaz-speaking and Georgian-speaking areos of Georgia. The Abkhazian name for the language is encyclopaedic. Please, stop. --Kmoksy (talk) 10:29, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
- Answer the question I posed on the page talk. Just because a language is spoken some place does not mean we should include names in 10 different languages. Then we must include English and Russian and so on...--ComtesseDeMingrélie 10:36, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
კოლხეთი
Can you answer my question? Apswaaa (talk) 19:17, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
Georgians
You have reverted the same change five times within the past 24 hours - without starting a discussion on the talk page or presenting sa source that supports your claim. I could block you for this alone, but I am choosing not to at this point. But I encourage you to read WP:EDITWAR, WP:NPOV, and WP:V very closely, as I doubt other admins would extend you the courtesy of not imposing sanctions after 5 reverts.·Maunus·ƛ· 16:10, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
The other two clowns
What is this: "the other two clowns". No personal attacks ! (WP:NPA) --Kmoksy (talk) 23:56, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
You are editwarring again with in hours of my last warning. This is your last chance to avoid a forced break from editing.·Maunus·ƛ· 14:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
ANI
I have filed a report at WP:ANI/3rr about an issue in which you were involved.·Maunus·ƛ· 15:28, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
- Please see WP:AN3#User:ComtesseDeMingrelie reported by User:Maunus (Result: ). Since you appear to be edit warring, you are urged to respond there. Making assertions about people's ethnic identity without providing any sources will get you in trouble quickly. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 16:34, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Stop! No personal attacks !
No personal attacks ! The "organized groups of thugs" is (WP:NPA) --Kmoksy (talk) 17:44, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
- You have waged a smear campaign against Georgians and insulted me and my friends on many occasions as nationalists who are trying to "erase" minorities off the map. If there is anyone who should be offended, it is me. Next time, learn proper English and instead of copy/pasting angry statements engage in an actual discussion. Thus far I have not seen many reasonable responses to what I and others have written on the talk pages.Now go back to sipping your Turkish tea and leave my page alone.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 21:22, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
Edit warring at Svan language
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}
, but you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.
The complete report of this case is at WP:AN3#User:ComtesseDeMingrelie reported by User:Maunus (Result: 31h). EdJohnston (talk) 18:38, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
- I did not start this dispute and the controversial changes need to be discussed before they are made, not after. Tell that to the other propagandists.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 21:18, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
ANI
I have filed a report at WP:ANI/3rr about an issue in which you were involved.·Maunus·ƛ· 02:17, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Just an advice
Hello Comtesse. Don't get disappointed over the block and try not to breach 3RR as some wanna-be technocratic administrators are always ready to manipulate with Wikipedia rules and exercise their "repressive" powers. I see you have encountered the problems I have been struggling with for years. See, for example, my post here conveniently ignored by the person to whom it was addressed. I know the group of single-purpose accounts you have to deal with is intractable and not open to any meaningful discussion (This Wikipedia not Georgia's Wikipedia is still my favorite argument :)), but still try to stick to the rules. I'll be available for help whenever possible. Regards, --KoberTalk 04:35, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
- Yes, I do realize that reverting is not a good option and I am grateful that you took so much time to explain the Georgian nation formation on the Svan page. Seems like reasonable people should need no more elaboration to figure out how things are.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 08:07, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
Georgian-Armenian War
Hello. I have the quotation, but it's on Armenian, do you want the original, or the translated version? If the English let me know, I thin tomorrow you'll get it.--Aram-van (talk) 18:41, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- Armenian sources are not supposed to be neutral in this case. Do you want the original Georgian sources? You will receive myriads of them. Would agree with them? No? What a surprise! Then why are we supposed to accept an Armenian version as the only true story? --KoberTalk 18:43, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
- To add to what Kober said, I will repeat that title/page is not a complete citation as there can be many books with a similar title.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 18:46, 19 March 2011 (UTC)
Colchis
“However, in the case of many tribes, this is often disputed among scholars, as many claim that many Colchian tribes were ancestors of the modern Abkhaz and Abaza, especially the Abasgoi, and assert that Colchis was an ethnically heterogeneous nation”. Apswaaa (talk) 19:59, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
STOP!
Stop insulting me insensibly. I didn't give a support "Apswaaa" or people like him. These kind of people (i don't want to say their ethnicity) are well-organized in Turkey and in other countries to spread their Anti-georgian propagandas such as spreading full of lie history and in this case they want to provoke Mingrelians and Lazs (who suffered from assimilation for a long time -this is the fact, Mingrelian and Laz languages are dying because of this reason-) *they want to use this fact against Georgians*. In this subject, i full agree with you but the disagreement point between you and me about definition of "Georgian (Kartvelian)" term. I understand that you normally support your country and your country's politics to hold it stronger but nevertheless you must respect your brothers's (Lazs) ideas who were seperated completely from Georgians centuries ago. If you respect it, of course i respect your thoughts too. Arguni (talk) 01:41, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- I reject the idea that Lazs are separate from the the rest of the groups in Georgia and I still believe that it is the result of Turkish dominance for centuries. I'm afraid nothing is going to change my mind on that. I have never insulted you, I just saw how you were involved in many disputes that the aforementioned people started. That made me suspicious, that is all.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 01:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
- I wanted to describe my ideas because you called me as a seperatist several times and these insults made me sad. Especially the last one about ethnic cleansing. How can i support this cruelty? Those people are living in tents now except living in their warm houses. Not only ethnic cleansing, but also there is cultural cleansing (especially toponymies) too. Arguni (talk) 02:14, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
Warning
Please undo your reversion. You must use the talk page of Asia rather than edit warring. This partiuclar topic has been discussed at length on Talk:Europe and the article modified carefully to explain the ambiguities involved in transcontinetal countries. Those arguments have remained unchanged over years. That you are not using the discussion page shows that you are just edit warring to push a WP:POV. In addition, as you seem to edit mainly articles to do with Georgia, if you continue without discussion, you could find yourself under editing restrictions, imposed by ArbCom on issues connected with Eastern Europe. Please calm down. At the moment the deduction you are making from your list of referenes is WP:OR and you are edit-warring. Thanks, Mathsci (talk) 18:52, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
- Please keep these warnings away from my page. I am familiar with wikipedia policy and also how technocrats such as you exploit it to every possible extent.That is the reason why, despite my edit summaries, you feel the need to write every single sentence on the talk pages so that you have something to press against me whenever you decide to have me censured if I am challenging your personal views.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 18:54, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
- That's not quite how things are. In this case I have suggested a compromise by using the carefully worded footnote from Europe, which includes almost excatly the statement that you wanted to make, but preserves the various ambiguities. I have explained that on Talk:Asia. I hope that this solution is satisfactory. It has been more of an issue on Europe than Asia, which is probably why the footnotes there have been constructed more carefully to deal with the inherent ambiguity. Thanks in advance, Mathsci (talk) 19:17, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
- Please keep these warnings away from my page. I am familiar with wikipedia policy and also how technocrats such as you exploit it to every possible extent.That is the reason why, despite my edit summaries, you feel the need to write every single sentence on the talk pages so that you have something to press against me whenever you decide to have me censured if I am challenging your personal views.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 18:54, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Please stop reverting your addition back in without discussion on Western Asia. It's a pure violation of WP:BRD, and you yourself have once stated that edits should be discussed first. Which you have not. Chipmunkdavis (talk) 07:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
- When one can make it clear in the edit summaries why the edit occurs, I see no need for further discussion. I am not going to discuss every time I insert a comma. Discussion is just your way of making everything drag on indefinitely so that nothing that goes against your views is written.--ComtesseDeMingrélie 07:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC)