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:Thanks for removing your more abusive comment.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Working_terrier&diff=prev&oldid=98438563]. The article says nothing about this being an international activity beyond the UK and US. I know it takes place in Ireland, but does it go much further. In case it does, I accept that you have a point, and that the UK end should not be quite so prominent. Let me make a few edits, starting by correcting the spelling, adding some {{fact}} tags for the more dubiouis phrases, and adding a small UK section. Would at least some of that be reasonable to you? [[User:MikeHobday|MikeHobday]] 20:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC) |
:Thanks for removing your more abusive comment.[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Working_terrier&diff=prev&oldid=98438563]. The article says nothing about this being an international activity beyond the UK and US. I know it takes place in Ireland, but does it go much further. In case it does, I accept that you have a point, and that the UK end should not be quite so prominent. Let me make a few edits, starting by correcting the spelling, adding some {{fact}} tags for the more dubiouis phrases, and adding a small UK section. Would at least some of that be reasonable to you? [[User:MikeHobday|MikeHobday]] 20:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC) |
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I have added a simple link to the "Fox hunting legislation" section on Wiki, and that's the end of it. Your characterization of fox hunting as largely illegal in the UK is a lie and you know it as Public Relations Director and professional "liar for hire" for the so-called "League Against Cruel Sports." In fact, terrier work is entirely legal in the U.K. (if regulated the same as everything else), and continues unabated. I will not even mention shooting or snaring which is unregulated even by season. You seem to confuse the mounted hunts with terrier work -- a good sign you know damn little about either one. |
Revision as of 21:46, 4 January 2007
Disputed edits
It is not clear what user:PBurns3711 objects to in my edit:
- I removed claims that were not verified - that hunting with terriers is humane, and that the UK red fox population is at a high;
- and added verifiable information: that hunting with terriers is largely illegal in Britain, how that came to be and what the law says
Perhaps concerns could be discussed here? MikeHobday 07:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
Hobday has gone all over wikipedia spreading his animal rights advocacy and it is not needed here. This post is about working terriers and not about a specific law in a specific country. As to the question of whether terrier work in humane or whether fox are at historical record populations in the UK, perhaps he should read "Running With the Fox" by David MacDonald, who is the UK best red fox biologist. The book is widely available, and in it MacDonald notes that "If hunting stopped, the same number of foxes, or even more, would be killed by people using other methods such as traps, poison, snares or night-shooting," as most fox that are purposely terminated in the UK are on bird-shoot estates where the fox is in direct competition with the "excess" birds released into the wild. As MacDonald notes, hunters are willing to pay £10 a bird -- fox are not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PBurns3711 (talk • contribs)
- You do not say how that makes the claims I removed verifiable or the verifiable claims I added inappropriate. Perhaps you could explain? If an activity described is, to a signifcant extent, illegal, then that seems relevant. MikeHobday 15:52, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
There is already a Wiki entry on the U.K. Hunting Act and on Foxh Hunting legiation, and another one here is not needed and redundant. If you want to create a separate Wiki entry on hunting laws all over the world or the hunting debate in the U.K., please feel free to do so -- that seems to be your expertise -- but that is not the topic of this entry nor an area in which you have any expertise. For the record, terrier work is practiced all over the world not just in the U.K., which is exactly why the unpopular and loophole-riddled laws of one small country and its advocates are irrelevant here.— Preceding unsigned comment added by PBurns3711 (talk • contribs)
- Thanks for removing your more abusive comment.[1]. The article says nothing about this being an international activity beyond the UK and US. I know it takes place in Ireland, but does it go much further. In case it does, I accept that you have a point, and that the UK end should not be quite so prominent. Let me make a few edits, starting by correcting the spelling, adding some [citation needed] tags for the more dubiouis phrases, and adding a small UK section. Would at least some of that be reasonable to you? MikeHobday 20:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
I have added a simple link to the "Fox hunting legislation" section on Wiki, and that's the end of it. Your characterization of fox hunting as largely illegal in the UK is a lie and you know it as Public Relations Director and professional "liar for hire" for the so-called "League Against Cruel Sports." In fact, terrier work is entirely legal in the U.K. (if regulated the same as everything else), and continues unabated. I will not even mention shooting or snaring which is unregulated even by season. You seem to confuse the mounted hunts with terrier work -- a good sign you know damn little about either one.