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Revision as of 02:29, 3 January 2009
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- Shylock
- Foreign, exotic, "The Other"
- "Christ killers"
- Weak and timid/unmanly. The nebbish.
- Intelligent, scholarly.
- Weak physical constitution and inability/unwillingness to perform physical labor or excel in other physical endeavors -- notably, sports.
- Evil and scheming/treacherous.
- Immoral/satanic. -- esp. as in Nazi propaganda
- Sexually uptight.
- Inordinately fond of African-American culture -- in effect, Black wannabes.
- Jungle fever.
- Physically unclean.
- Physical features: large, hooknoses; pigeon-toed; "spastic" with frizzy/nappy hair.
- Neurotic and fearful.
- Guilt-ridden and engendering guilt (as in Jewish mothers).
- Gossipy and interfering -- the yenta.
- Highly materialistic and concerned with social status.
- Good Jewish boy.
- Good Jewish girl.
- Jewish mothers ("eat", guilt, doting/smothering/bragging, long-suffering/martyr syndrome status-conscious)
- The JAP -- Jewish American princess: helpless, spoiled, high-maintenance, gold-digging
- Yiddish-English speech patterns -- the hooked g's, etc.
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I am trying to model this page on Stereotypes of African Americans
travb (talk) 00:53, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm restorings this because it's potentially useful. Censorship will not be tolerated. deeceevoice (talk) 01:52, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Some sources
Just a quick search yielded all kinds of useful source material. It isn't all scholarly, but much of it is -- and it all points clearly to the usefulness/importance of an article on the subject.
- about.com
- youtube.com
- cwi.org.uk
- "Stereotypes confronted head-on in Spertus show" [1]
- Semites and Stereotypes: Characteristics of Jewish Humor[2]
- Studying the Jew, by Alan E. Steinweiss [3]
- Tobias, Josh. "Meet the Fockers, Larry David and the Jewish Archetype."[4]
- Trachtenbergm, Joshua. The Devil and the Jews: The Medieval Conception of the Jew and Its Relation to Modern Anti-Semitism[5]
- A goldmine: German Propaganda Archive, Part II. Anti-Semitic Material[6]
- Dvora Weisberg, 'The Study of Torah as a Religious Act' in Four Centuries of Jewish Women’s Spirituality Ellen M. Umansky and Dianne Asliton, Beacon Press, 1992.
- "For years I’ve been asked how a young woman from San Francisco with a modest Jewish background came to be an observant Jew and a Talmudist. I’ve never formulated a good answer. I keep thinking back, looking for the specific event or person that influenced the decisions that made me who and what I am today; but I cannot pinpoint it... Torah is a path that, having been chosen, seems to draw me further and further along, convinced that every twist and turn of the road brings me a little closer to G-d."
- Dovida Ishatova, ‘What May Be Tsores to You Is Naches to Me’ in Nice Jewish Girls: A Lesbian Anthology, Evelyn Torton Beck (ed.) Beacon Press 1989.
- "Dear Mom and Dad: So what’s a nice Jewish girl like me doing in a book like this? Why, flaunting it, of course, and hoping maybe to meet some other nice Jewish girls. Besides, Jewish girls make such nice lesbians. We’re loud, we’re boisterous, we know how to cuddle, we know how to squeeze. But to be a Jew, the daughter of a survivor, and a lesbian? How can that be? With a background like mine, how could I have ever wandered so far from the "chosen path"? But I’m telling you, I am a nice Jewish girl."
- Blu Greenberg, On Women and Judaism:
- A View from Tradition JPS, 1981.
- "Two things I know for sure. My questioning never will lead me to abandon tradition. I am part of a chain that is too strong to break, and though it needs no protection from me, a child of the tradition, I want to protect it with the fierceness of a mother protecting her young. But I also know that I never can yield the new value of women’s equality, even though it may conflict with Jewish tradition."
- Ellen M. Umansky, 'Reclaiming the Covenant: A Jewish Feminist’s Search for Meaning' in Four Centuries of Jewish Women’s Spirituality, Ellen M. Umansky and Dianne Ashton (eds.), Beacon Press, 1992.
- "As a feminist I have begun to reclaim my voice; as a Jew, I am ready to activate my membership within the covenant and to reopen the dialogue with our G-d. As I think about my spiritual journey, I realize that my search for meaning may never end. What I’ve learned in the seventeen years since I took my Confirmation vows is that the ground rules are not pre-established, that it is my obligation as a Jew to help create a Judaism that is meaningful for my generation."
- Source: "Generally Jewish, Specifically (Fe)Male: Jewish Stereotypes of Gender" at [7]
deeceevoice (talk) 01:54, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
Did you search those sources I gave you a link too? Like google book or goggle archive news? Neither of those sources (youtube or about.com) will convince others to keep.
Further, whenever adding sources, but especially in a deletion discussion, always add the sources to the article page, not the talk page. Almost everyone ignores the talk page, and they always ignore the talk page when someone else asks them to do the work for them.
(edit conflict) good job! travb (talk) 01:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
List removed again
This isn't censorship. We're not going to keep up an inflammatory, unsourced list in the hopes that it might be useful. Find some sources and then add the proper elements back in using sensitivity, judgement, and good editorial skills. AniMatetalk 02:02, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
- I'm removing the list again. All this has proved is that deeceevoice has written a list of unsourced, bigoted stereotypes. We don't throw everything up and hope it sticks or write articles from things we've heard or believe, we write articles from sources. Keep the list in your user space if you desire, but it is simply a collection of unsourced assertions from a single user it has no place in this article. AniMatetalk 02:15, 3 January 2009 (UTC)