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*My concern about this move is that, even the article for the town is now at [[Ochamchire]], ''this'' district is a subdivision of Abkhazia which uses the ''Ochamchir'''a''''' spelling (''vs.'' the [[Ochamchire Municipality]] of Georgia). — [[User talk:AjaxSmack|<span style="border:1px solid #000073;background:#4D4DA6;padding:2px;color:#F9FFFF;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em"><font face="Georgia"> '''AjaxSmack''' </font></span>]] 04:11, 11 June 2016 (UTC) |
*My concern about this move is that, even the article for the town is now at [[Ochamchire]], ''this'' district is a subdivision of Abkhazia which uses the ''Ochamchir'''a''''' spelling (''vs.'' the [[Ochamchire Municipality]] of Georgia). — [[User talk:AjaxSmack|<span style="border:1px solid #000073;background:#4D4DA6;padding:2px;color:#F9FFFF;text-shadow:black 0.2em 0.2em 0.3em"><font face="Georgia"> '''AjaxSmack''' </font></span>]] 04:11, 11 June 2016 (UTC) |
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**[[User:AjaxSmack]], that issue is done and we had discussion about it. Same case was with [[Tkvarcheli]] and its [[Tkvarcheli district|district]]. This is not about what Abkhazians call but what is Common Name of the City in English. "Ochamchire District" is not separate name but constructed from two parts "city name" and "district" so city name here must be changed. And that [[Ochamchire Municipality]] will become object of debates because I think it is inappropriate, we can merge them here. --<big>[[User:Giorgi Balakhadze|<span style="color:black;font-family:GEO Gothic;padding:0 4px">g. balaxaZe</span>]]</big>[[User talk:Giorgi Balakhadze|<span style="background:#80D0FF;color:white;font-size:100%;padding:2.2px">★</span>]] 07:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC) |
**[[User:AjaxSmack]], that issue is done and we had discussion about it. Same case was with [[Tkvarcheli]] and its [[Tkvarcheli district|district]]. This is not about what Abkhazians call but what is Common Name of the City in English. "Ochamchire District" is not separate name but constructed from two parts "city name" and "district" so city name here must be changed. And that [[Ochamchire Municipality]] will become object of debates because I think it is inappropriate, we can merge them here. --<big>[[User:Giorgi Balakhadze|<span style="color:black;font-family:GEO Gothic;padding:0 4px">g. balaxaZe</span>]]</big>[[User talk:Giorgi Balakhadze|<span style="background:#80D0FF;color:white;font-size:100%;padding:2.2px">★</span>]] 07:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''', there is no compelling reason for this page to remain at Ochamchira while the eponymous city is Ochamchire. The latter is more common.--[[User:Damianmx|Damianmx]] ([[User talk:Damianmx|talk]]) 19:56, 11 June 2016 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''': Ochamire is the most frequent spelling. [[User:DaltonCastle|DaltonCastle]] ([[User talk:DaltonCastle|talk]]) 22:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC) |
*'''Support''': Ochamire is the most frequent spelling. [[User:DaltonCastle|DaltonCastle]] ([[User talk:DaltonCastle|talk]]) 22:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC) |
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I hit enter before writing full comment: "rv, this is the article about the district of Abkhazia, which is different from Georgian district of the same, so having Georgian flag here would make the matter even more confusing to the reader" Alæxis¿question? 09:04, 5 February 2016 (UTC)
- No do what you want but that entity so called republic is located on Georgian sovereign territory (recognized by UN), district is not hypothetical it is in connection with sovereign territory, so first discuss and then change, I am reverting. --g. balaxaZe★ 22:49, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
- Putting only Georgian flag is POV since the district is located in a disputed region, is not currently governed by Georgia and which at least some countries recognise as independent country. Also it's not consistent with treating this issue in similar articles (see Sukhumi, Gagra for example) where no or both flags are used.
- Therefore my opinion is that it's a better from NPOV point of view not to put any flags in the infobox as I've suggested before. If you don't agree with that I suggest seeking third opinion. Alæxis¿question? 12:56, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- Alex yes we can agree on that, but be honest pushing secessionist Abkhazia view here is not fair thing. I agree to remove both flags but only country should be Georgia.--g. balaxaZe★ 13:38, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
- The problem with this specific article is that there is no Ochamchira district of Georgia with boundaries as shown, so we mislead the reader (and we also have Ochamchire_Municipality article). As the article itself says "Ochamchira district is a district of the partially recognised Abkhazia... The district is smaller than the Ochamchire district in the de jure subdivision of Georgia", so I'd put it as follows (also considering that in Ochamchire_Municipality we only mention Georgia):
- Alex yes we can agree on that, but be honest pushing secessionist Abkhazia view here is not fair thing. I agree to remove both flags but only country should be Georgia.--g. balaxaZe★ 13:38, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
Abkhazia/Georgia[1]
- Alæxis¿question? 07:58, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
Requested move 2 June 2016
Ochamchira District → Ochamchire District – Requesting move per capital name Ochamchire g. balaxaZe★ 23:49, 2 June 2016 (UTC) -- Relisting. Anarchyte (work | talk) 07:23, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
- My concern about this move is that, even the article for the town is now at Ochamchire, this district is a subdivision of Abkhazia which uses the Ochamchira spelling (vs. the Ochamchire Municipality of Georgia). — AjaxSmack 04:11, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- User:AjaxSmack, that issue is done and we had discussion about it. Same case was with Tkvarcheli and its district. This is not about what Abkhazians call but what is Common Name of the City in English. "Ochamchire District" is not separate name but constructed from two parts "city name" and "district" so city name here must be changed. And that Ochamchire Municipality will become object of debates because I think it is inappropriate, we can merge them here. --g. balaxaZe★ 07:23, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- Support, there is no compelling reason for this page to remain at Ochamchira while the eponymous city is Ochamchire. The latter is more common.--Damianmx (talk) 19:56, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- Support: Ochamire is the most frequent spelling. DaltonCastle (talk) 22:38, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
- ^ The political status of Abkhazia is disputed. Having unilaterally declared independence from Georgia in 1992, Abkhazia is formally recognised as an independent state by 5 UN member states (two other states previously recognised it but then withdrew their recognition), while the remainder of the international community recognizes it as as de jure Georgian territory. Georgia continues to claim the area as its own territory, designating it as Russian-occupied territory.