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I've inserted a heading designed to separate out the material on Harry Fisher, but this really deserves its own article. This piece also needs more detail regarding Douglas Franklin, and perhaps also the fates of Lattimore, Leighton, and Salih.
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Hey, I've taken this page under my wing and am working on refining the structure and adding citations currently. However, I'm wondering whether the far-reaching ramifications of this case and the miscarriage of justice surrounding the prosecution should be under a different page altogether? Let me know if anyone has opinions. Strunk and Right (talk) 00:55, 21 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Change Page Name
Her name is Michelle, as we know is the name she identified with. She deserves the name of the page fitting her identity. May we please discuss this, maybe take votes? Please mention me so I get notices if you reply. ContributingHelperOnTheSide (talk) 07:53, 6 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I definitely agree! I'm new to this, so I don't know how to change the page name. How would one do that? Lm95035679 (talk) 02:30, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You would post the following text on this talk page: {{subst:requested move|Murder of Michelle Confait|reason=}} --Pokelova (talk) 03:00, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Requested move 19 February 2023
Murder of Maxwell Confait → Murder of Michelle Confait – Per MOS:DEADNAME, we should respect subject's last preferred name. As far as I can tell nobody disputes that she preferred Michelle. 2603:6011:2443:AE00:D904:923E:E767:4A51 (talk) 07:44, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support per nom. Skynxnex (talk) 06:26, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose. Like it or not, the victim was invariably referred to as Maxwell Confait. Every source cited in the article uses that name. It has gone down in the annals of British murder. It is the very clear WP:COMMONNAME. Wikipedia is not in the business of revisionism. We report facts and only facts. How it was, not how modern sensibilities would like it to be. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:41, 22 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I should also point out that not a single reliable source refers to Confait as "a trans woman". This is no more than putting a 21st-century interpretation on the life of someone who died fifty years ago. Confait was described at the time as a transvestite and some modern commentators (including, obviously, some Wikipedia editors) have assumed that means a trans woman. However, even today, not everyone by a long shot who identifies as a transvestite identifies as a trans woman (see Grayson Perry for a particularly well-known example). It appears that because an editor has added "trans woman" to the article (with no supporting sources) the above editors have automatically assumed this is correct because in the 21st century that's what many would assume. But as with many other things, you simply cannot apply 21st-century assumptions to the past and we do not make assumptions on Wikipedia without supporting evidence from reliable sources. -- Necrothesp (talk) 10:06, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]
This seems like a pretty historically significant case and an article with many problems. Shouldn't it be categorized as something other than low-importance to get it more attention? 2603:6011:2443:AE00:D904:923E:E767:4A51 (talk) 07:48, 19 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]