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snooker, what the hell is that? How does this affect the world? [[User:SACP|SACP]] ([[User talk:SACP|talk]]) 13:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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:The same could be said for various sporting events that get mentions on ITN. Namely American Football and Baseball. To be honest I care little about snooker and other sporting events but I'm happy the ITN items have taken away the fear mongering Swine Flu that is constantly in your face at the moment (well my face anyway). [[User:Dark verdant|Dark verdant]] ([[User talk:Dark verdant|talk]]) 13:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC) |
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A plane crash near Chikangawa, Malawi, kills nine people, including Vice-President (hyphenated) Saulos Chilima (pictured).
It seems like according to this, "Vice-President" is the correct spelling to be used. Therefore, the main page uses an incorrect spelling by not hyphenating "Vice-President".
- Nah, let’s see what comes out of that requested move. And chances are that by the time that’s sorted, the item won’t be on the main page any longer. Schwede66 22:53, 14 June 2024 (UTC)
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BREASTS?! ON THE MAIN PAGE!
Where is the decency in this world?! If I don't die from kissing all these pigs, the shock of seeing those spaniel's ears is sure to finish me off! Surely a cross section of a bra or a blurry purple image of a bra will do? I'm distraught here ... think about the children ... and the kittens! (BTW, "Bra" in German is "Büstenhalter", literally "Bust holder" ... easily my favourite translation EVER!) --LookingYourBest (talk) 05:19, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- What are you referring to? It's possible all you saw was a little image vandalism. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 09:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- THIS was in the DYK section! Horror!;
- --LookingYourBest (talk) 12:07, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I am a bit partial to her Elvis quiff though ... hmmmm! --LookingYourBest (talk) 12:10, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- The US Patent Office should be ashamed of itself, publishing this smut - though perhaps it was just an honest boob, and they deserve our full (underwired) support. I don't want to make a tit of myself, but I felt I had to get that off my chest. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 12:15, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- /*claps* You racked up some points there! --LookingYourBest (talk) 12:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- We had better nip this in the bud. Agathman (talk) 13:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- Don't be crazy, after all, wikipedia is nork censored! --LookingYourBest (talk) 15:17, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- You guys sure milked that for every joke it's worth. 75.142.209.214 (talk) 23:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- I'd agree, but knowing wikipedia editors, I'm sure they'll find udders! --LookingYourBest (talk) 06:02, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- We had better nip this in the bud. Agathman (talk) 13:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- I am a bit partial to her Elvis quiff though ... hmmmm! --LookingYourBest (talk) 12:10, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
- --LookingYourBest (talk) 12:07, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
General Belgrano image
(cross-posted to WP:AN)
FAO anyone who can edit protected pages on commons, there's a spot of vandalism on the ARA General Belgrano underway.jpg image in "On this day". EyeSerenetalk 09:51, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- The vandalism was removed by an administrator at Commons [1]. — Kralizec! (talk) 15:11, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Prime Minister of Senegal really that important?
I mean, both guys, the guy who was replaced and the guy who replaced him, only even have 3 paragraph articles slapped together for this headline. Because it's Senegal. It's not that important, stop pretending it is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.19.89 (talk) 16:24, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- It has a population higher than Switzerland, Portugal, Czech Republic, Sweden, Israel, Finland, Norway, Ireland and other countries that we cover in depth or which would be considered "major". However, English is not a language widely spoken in Senegal, and, as far as I know, it has no major links with English speaking countries. Our coverage of the nation is poor due to
systematicsystemic bias. I'm not quite sure how you could argue that the Senegal news is of little importance when we have a car crash, a poet and something about marriage in a tiny country (see above...) next to it. Note that all those stories are about Europe. If anything, we seem to be strongly biased against the important political stories in Africa. J Milburn (talk) 17:14, 2 May 2009 (UTC)- I agree. Any opportunity to have an African ITN is to be welcomed. It is also pleasing to note that we had a slight increase in South American ITNs last month. No country or continent ought to dominate. Three paragraphs is a more than suitable length for ITN and having it on the Main Page means someone might come along and add to it. --candle•wicke 18:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- That's systemic bias - systematic bias is quite different (and implies consistent but intentional bias). —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 14:21, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry? Are you saying what I was describing was not systematic bias? My description seems pretty consistent with what our article on the subject says. J Milburn (talk) 14:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- You mean systematic bias? Nil Einne (talk) 16:10, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, shut me up. Fixed. J Milburn (talk) 16:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- For those who are wondering: Systemic_bias#Systemic_versus_systematic_bias states '[...] systemic biases are sometimes said to arise from the nature of the interworkings of the system, whereas systematic biases stem from a concerted effort to favor certain outcomes. Consider the difference between affirmative action (systematic) compared to racism and caste (systemic).' Modest Genius talk 02:20, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry J - I should have been clearer. Your definition of systemic bias was quite correct, I just meant you got the link wrong and presented it as a definition of systematic bias which (I would sincerely hope) Wikipedia does not have. After all, TINC (however, SCREWy it may seem). —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 12:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Wow, shut me up. Fixed. J Milburn (talk) 16:16, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- You mean systematic bias? Nil Einne (talk) 16:10, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry? Are you saying what I was describing was not systematic bias? My description seems pretty consistent with what our article on the subject says. J Milburn (talk) 14:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Featured User Page
I think there should be a featued User page. Parker1297 (talk) 18:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Who have you in mind? --candle•wicke 18:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- iirc, this was discussed before, but the primary concern against it was that each featured user on the Main Page would end up getting their user page and user talk page constantly vandalised for the duration of the day, especially those who are prominent or have attracted a bunch of enemies as a result of various heated disputes. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 19:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- That's the main objection? What about the fact that we're not MySpace, the fact that it would cause bitter infighting (as it would sail dangerously close to commenting on the user, as userpages are by their nature personal) it doesn't aid the encyclopedia in any way and the main page is for readers, not for editors? Seriously, featured redirects would be more useful than featured userpages, but before them we have featured sounds, featured lists, featured topics, featured portals, featured image sets, good articles, good topics and valued pictures that all deserve more recognition than they are getting. J Milburn (talk) 20:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. But this conversation started with the concept of a featured user page. Where did the notion of putting it on the Main Page come from? --candle•wicke 21:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Well, anytime somebody proposes a featured X, the conversation always evolves into "can we put it on the main page". Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- This is on Talk:Main Page so my presumption would be that the OP wanted to put it on the main page. Of course we do get a lot of completely OT chatter here so who knows? Nil Einne (talk) 09:30, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree. But this conversation started with the concept of a featured user page. Where did the notion of putting it on the Main Page come from? --candle•wicke 21:01, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- That's the main objection? What about the fact that we're not MySpace, the fact that it would cause bitter infighting (as it would sail dangerously close to commenting on the user, as userpages are by their nature personal) it doesn't aid the encyclopedia in any way and the main page is for readers, not for editors? Seriously, featured redirects would be more useful than featured userpages, but before them we have featured sounds, featured lists, featured topics, featured portals, featured image sets, good articles, good topics and valued pictures that all deserve more recognition than they are getting. J Milburn (talk) 20:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- iirc, this was discussed before, but the primary concern against it was that each featured user on the Main Page would end up getting their user page and user talk page constantly vandalised for the duration of the day, especially those who are prominent or have attracted a bunch of enemies as a result of various heated disputes. Cheers. Zzyzx11 (talk) 19:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Are we talking about a featured user or a featured user page? Both are very bad ideas but are quite different concepts. Nil Einne (talk) 22:13, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- It seems like a bad idea to feature things that are not content. Why would WP want to encourage people to put time into their user pages? How does that benefit the encyclopedia? APL (talk) 05:27, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yes but then we would get into fights over what KIND of user is good, we would have to protect user pages, and in general it would be pointless. Besides, no user on wikipedia is worth being on the mnainpage.--Jakezing (Your King (talk) 02:47, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Category
Should the Main Page be placed in a category? -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 23:47, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
- Now this issue I remember because it is right on the page history of the Main Page: About two years ago, somebody added Category:Main Page[2] but then was reverted.[3] As archived on Talk:Main Page/Archive 111#Category, the objection was that it spoils the appearance of the main page and that no one needs help finding it. Zzyzx11 (talk) 01:00, 3 May 2009 (UTC) .
Capitalization of Gay
The Gay-Class ships should be capitalized; not only would it be proper English to capitalize a proper noun, but the way the page reads now is borderline defamatory. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cransona (talk • contribs) 19:22, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
WW2?
I think World War II should be spelled out instead. It would look more professional. 99.138.181.187 (talk) 03:03, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Huh? Where? In other news, please report any inaccuracies or stylistic suggestions about the content of the Main Page sections to WP:ERRORS. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 12:38, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Second World War is generally the accepted historical term. --89.240.151.100 (talk) 13:45, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- ...in Europe and the Commonwealth; I believe "World War Two" is preferred in the US. However, it doesn't alter the fact that we have no idea where this is an issue - we need the original IP poster to let us know. I've also looked at the Main Page and can't see anything obvious. Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 13:56, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Shouldn't the main page have a short section about the word-wide crisis that's going on that the moment? It is extremely important for Wikipedians to know about and I think it should be on the main page, along with a map of the world showing which contries are currently affected by it. Ross Rhodes (T C) Sign! 15:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- It was on the news, but it scrolled off. Besides, it's not that important. So far, you're more likely to die from regular flu. APL (talk) 15:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah I suppose, though it is affecting people all round the world. And for all we know, it could get much worse. I still think it should be added. Ross Rhodes (T C) Sign! 15:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- It could get much worse? No crystal ball please. We will definitely feature it again when it does get much worse. --BorgQueen (talk) 15:23, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- ?I think wikipedia should be worried if people come solely HERE in order to get current news... --Jakezing (Your King (talk) 02:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- Wikipedia is not a news outlet. Please see our sister project, Wikinews. —David Levy 03:03, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
er no that's just wrong. the WHO are a reliable source that says that a pandemic is likely. that is nothing close to a 'crystal ball' and does not go against wikipedia's guidelines. reporting on a future pandemic might well be wrong but surely no-one wants to write about what people will say about a swine flu once it happens, or anything else that might be original research. people want to write about documented speculation on whether a pandemic is imminent: nothing to do with crystal balls. jesus christ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.134.11.169 (talk) 09:37, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- The WHO being a reliable source doesn't change the fact that Wikipedia is not a news outlet it is an Encyclopedia. If/when anything changes regarding the Swine Flu, I am sure someone will update and readd to the ITN section. And as someone has already mentioned why would people mainly be coming to Wikipedia for current news, I would go to a proper news website or even the TV for up to date information. Dark verdant (talk) 11:51, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- What does the word pandemic mean? Certainly few people are dying of the bugger,
The NORMAL FLU is more of a pandemic then H1N1... Besides: The Southern Hemisphere is the one who will be enduring Swine Flu for the next couple of months, and since the people who come to En.wikipedia and edit and therefor make their presence known seem to be of a Northern Hemisphere group: why would we care (jk)--Jakezing (Your King (talk) 12:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
On this day ...
Re today's Latvia entry, I'd just like to point out that Lithuania was the first to declare its independence, on March 11, 1990. Sca (talk) 16:25, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
gay did you know...
wow...
... that the Royal Navy accepted a gay Viking and a gay Corsair into their service during the Second World War, with another 12 gays joining in the 1950s?
just... wow.--Onstet9 (talk) 20:58, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
- I agree; that's completely inappropriate. It reads like an April Fools' joke. J Milburn (talk) 21:02, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
Did you know (picture)
The line referring to the picture mentions three people then says "(pictured)"... The picture is of a single person, which of the three is the picture of? æron phone home 08:23, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- The single person pictured is the last one mentioned (the name followed by "(pictured)"). — JamesR ≈talk≈ 08:26, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- Still somewhat confusing that way. æron phone home 09:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- Re-ordered for clarity, and because it makes more sense to have Milligan mentioned first in the context of his eponymous legal case. BencherliteTalk 09:22, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- Still somewhat confusing that way. æron phone home 09:14, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Turkey attacks
Should this be in the news section, as with all attacks like this! It is a sad event but a significant one in Turkey because of how it was carried out. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 11:15, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- Please suggest candidates at WP:ITN/C, NOT here. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 11:39, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
Is Snooker really _that_ important
Are there not more important things in the world to include on the front page than a picture of the most recent Snooker champion? Since "In the news" only gets real estate for a single picture, there has to be more important news that the picture could highlight. "And in other news, the Rotary Club is having a bake-sale at the local MegaMart. Stay tuned for details". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.35.225.229 (talk) 12:38, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- So now were being reprimand for putting something BESIDES major news event as thje picture? Amazing. I think it's a good change; we need to mic up the ITN pictures between important and not important entries.--Jakezing (Your King (talk) 12:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- A balance should be able to be found between the utterly unimportant from a global perspective and fear-mongering, 'the sky is falling' tabloid news. Snooker champion=ultimately unimportant. Swine flu pandemic='the sky is falling.' Georgia accuses Russia of coup attempt=somewhere in between. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.35.225.229 (talk) 13:20, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- Difficult, though, to produce a picture of one country accusing another country of plotting a coup. Also, note that this ITN is currently top; when it gets displaced by a more recent news item the picture will likely change. I suspect recent events in Turkey, and any accompanying picture, may satisfy your criteria. To my mind, however, snooker is a growing sport in Asia and Europe, and a significant part of the anglophone world will find it at least slightly interesting (mind you, I'd prefer a picture of a Nepalese politician or an Austrian avalanche). Cheers, This flag once was redpropagandadeeds 13:29, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- A balance should be able to be found between the utterly unimportant from a global perspective and fear-mongering, 'the sky is falling' tabloid news. Snooker champion=ultimately unimportant. Swine flu pandemic='the sky is falling.' Georgia accuses Russia of coup attempt=somewhere in between. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.35.225.229 (talk) 13:20, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
snooker, what the hell is that? How does this affect the world? SACP (talk) 13:32, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
- The same could be said for various sporting events that get mentions on ITN. Namely American Football and Baseball. To be honest I care little about snooker and other sporting events but I'm happy the ITN items have taken away the fear mongering Swine Flu that is constantly in your face at the moment (well my face anyway). Dark verdant (talk) 13:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)