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Regarding the Tavor Χ95, [https://cyprus-mail.com/2017/09/14/defence-ministry-plans-armament-spending-spree/ this reference] does not confirm its currently in use, or even delivered. Future plans are not set in stone, references confirming current use are needed. Also [https://web.archive.org/web/20180224113130/http://www.proelasi.org/2016/03/20/scar-για-τους-κύπριους-καταδρομείς-νέα-όπ/ this] is a blog on Wordpress or a similar platform and not a reliable reference, see [[WP:BLOGS]]. [[User:FDW777|FDW777]] ([[User talk:FDW777|talk]]) 13:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC) |
Regarding the Tavor Χ95, [https://cyprus-mail.com/2017/09/14/defence-ministry-plans-armament-spending-spree/ this reference] does not confirm its currently in use, or even delivered. Future plans are not set in stone, references confirming current use are needed. Also [https://web.archive.org/web/20180224113130/http://www.proelasi.org/2016/03/20/scar-για-τους-κύπριους-καταδρομείς-νέα-όπ/ this] is a blog on Wordpress or a similar platform and not a reliable reference, see [[WP:BLOGS]]. [[User:FDW777|FDW777]] ([[User talk:FDW777|talk]]) 13:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC) |
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Stop editing it and vandalizing the page. The sources are all provided and if you keep doing this you will be blocked from editing. The Tavor X95 is already proven to be in the Cypriot national guard, there is picture evidence and multiple sources. Every single thing you deleted had a source provided so please stop. |
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M16 removed again
Original research includes any analysis or synthesis of published material that serves to reach or imply a conclusion not stated by the sources. Any interpretation of a video claiming a particular gun is an M16 is original research by definition, since it's analysis of the video. FDW777 (talk) 19:34, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Whether its "original research" or not that video clearly shows the M16s so I don't get why you're treating it as if they don't exist. Nothing magically changes simply because it may be implied or not. Besides that doesn't explain why you got rid of the exocet missiles as well? What you're doing here is simply trolling and misinforming for no good reason.
- It's your own analysis that the guns are M16s, thus prohibited by policy. FDW777 (talk) 19:49, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Unreferenced material removed
See WP:BURDEN. Anyone wishing to restore any of it is obliged to provide references. FDW777 (talk) 19:48, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
I referenced and you still removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cypriot Nationalist (talk • contribs) 19:49, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- No, you didn't. You provided your own analysis of a video, not permitted per no original research. FDW777 (talk) 19:51, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
There was nothing to analyse it was an M16 in the video and if you think any different you are either playing purposely difficult or im sorry to say, youre just a bit slow. Furthermore how is this original research (Talking about the exocets now)? Just seems to me youre a troll nothing more.
https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/02/08/cyprus-signs-e240-mln-french-missiles-contract/
https://www.financialmirror.com/2020/02/07/cyprus-signs-e240-mln-french-missiles-contract/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cypriot Nationalist (talk • contribs) 19:59, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- If there was nothing to analyse, you should be able to provide me with a timestamp from the video where the gun's manufacturer and model is clearly visible. FDW777 (talk) 20:03, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- List of Colt AR-15 and M16 rifle variants might be of interest. FDW777 (talk) 20:07, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
Im not here to satisfy you or your wants, you quite clearly know its an M16 and since you're gonna try to act smart about it hows about you do this, prove its any other weapon. If you cant provide valid evidence that its another weapon then I was clearly right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cypriot Nationalist (talk • contribs) 22:21, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Sock blocked. Should any editor wish to attempt to restore any of the information with references, the version before removal is here. FDW777 (talk) 07:49, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
Not that socks have a right to edit anyway, but "Yamaha Chappy" on Youtube is not a reliable reference since it's user-submitted content. FDW777 (talk) 15:07, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
Problems with previous content
Even ignoring that it can't be restored without references, I will detail some obvious problems with just one entry. At Navy vessels there is a craft listed, "FPB 26M", made in Finland, 25 metres long. There is no apparent trace outside of Wikipedia (at least among reliable references) of a "FPB 26M". I'm guessing (and obviously my guesses have no place in a Wikipedia article), it's one of these. Obviously the 26M in the name and the part that says Length (Hull): 26 m
would suggest our claimed length of 25 metres was wrong, although I'm sure anyone wondering why it was called "26M" might have guessed that anyway. BRAGER solutions are not based in Finland, but in Germany, so it's unclear as to whether they would have been the correct supplier anyway. There is no reason why unreferenced information like this should be left in the article when there is no guarantee any of it is accurate. FDW777 (talk) 11:28, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
So I'm literally just going to assume that you're here to troll, not only is there a FPB 26M, there is also a FPB 30M so I'm literally just going to assume you're a troll now. In the event that you just struggle a bit online Ill help you out. So you say that it was unreferenced and all, so Naval analysis is one of the most trustworthy websites when it gets to Navys and are very reputable in their field. So, please scroll down to a place in that website where it gives a table of ships that we possess, you will see that it says Finland FPB 26M Ammochostos (Literally a place in Cyprus) and then has the registration P05. Now please, if you will scroll up a little bit and you should see both a photo of the ship clearly showing P05 and it saying "Armed patrol boat P05 Ammochostos" so can you now please tell me if you are still adamant to that you're somehow right, can you please explain how you still think you are correct when there is both descriptive proof and a clear photo of the ship (I say ship, call it a boat if you want)? Thank you.
Naval analysis is one of the most trustworthy websites when it gets to Navys and are very reputable in their field
is simply ignorant of facts and Wikipedia policy. If you scroll down the bottom of this article you will see that footnote #1 cites a Wikipedia article, Cyprus Navy#Current inventory of vessels to be exact. Similarly footnote #2 cites Cyprus Port and Marine Police. So as they cite Wikipedia, they aren't trustworthy at all. Clicking on the author link of D-Mitch takes you to a blogger page confirming Naval Analyses is hosted there. It's a self-published blog with a domain name, anyone can create a blog and buy a fancy sounding domain name which is why WP:BLOGS says they aren't reliable. Now do any non-sock/meatpuppets have any proper references? FDW777 (talk) 17:39, 20 November 2020 (UTC)
So nobody has any suggestions about things to be added to the article with references? FDW777 (talk) 11:46, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
- Added some back, that @ViktorHetman: did provide references for (but which I didn't originally remove). Of course these could have been added back weeks ago, but if you choose not to communicate with other editors that's your problem. FDW777 (talk) 09:39, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Regarding the Tavor Χ95, this reference does not confirm its currently in use, or even delivered. Future plans are not set in stone, references confirming current use are needed. Also this is a blog on Wordpress or a similar platform and not a reliable reference, see WP:BLOGS. FDW777 (talk) 13:48, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Stop editing it and vandalizing the page. The sources are all provided and if you keep doing this you will be blocked from editing. The Tavor X95 is already proven to be in the Cypriot national guard, there is picture evidence and multiple sources. Every single thing you deleted had a source provided so please stop.
Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2020
Just undo the 8k removed information because it seems the information was indeed correct but was blocked by a sock of some form otherwise it leaves most of this nations military equipment out. 83.219.49.114 (talk) 12:35, 20 October 2020 (UTC)
- Not done The version you refer to contains unreferenced additions by the sock, for example in the Armored vehicles section, but not limited to that section. FDW777 (talk) 12:44, 20 October 2020 (UTC)