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:::::I prefer to call a spade a spade, rather than to robotically spit out policies and platitudes while maintaining an exaggerated pretense of innocence and civility. Khamenei.ir also blames Britain for the deaths of up to 10 million Iranians during the World War 1 era famine, which (as far as I can tell, at least) is probably more than the entire population of the affected areas of Iran at the time (the causes of the famine were varied, but a more reasonable estimate for the death toll seems to be a figure of up to 2 million, which is certainly tragic enough without any need for exaggeration). To my knowledge, the [[Global Policy Forum]] isn't a great source, either, though it would certainly be valid as a situational source if nothing else.[[User:TheTimesAreAChanging|TheTimesAreAChanging]] ([[User talk:TheTimesAreAChanging|talk]]) 13:55, 19 December 2015 (UTC) |
:::::I prefer to call a spade a spade, rather than to robotically spit out policies and platitudes while maintaining an exaggerated pretense of innocence and civility. Khamenei.ir also blames Britain for the deaths of up to 10 million Iranians during the World War 1 era famine, which (as far as I can tell, at least) is probably more than the entire population of the affected areas of Iran at the time (the causes of the famine were varied, but a more reasonable estimate for the death toll seems to be a figure of up to 2 million, which is certainly tragic enough without any need for exaggeration). To my knowledge, the [[Global Policy Forum]] isn't a great source, either, though it would certainly be valid as a situational source if nothing else.[[User:TheTimesAreAChanging|TheTimesAreAChanging]] ([[User talk:TheTimesAreAChanging|talk]]) 13:55, 19 December 2015 (UTC) |
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::::::In Wikipedia you can't do all what you prefer and in this case you have to respect the [[Wikipedia:Civility|policies]]. I would not call that {{tq|"robotically spit[ing] out policies and platitudes while maintaining an exaggerated pretense of innocence and civility."}} You can't judge the sources based on your own [[WP:OR]]. Any way, I think instead I'd better take it to the [[WP:RSN|boards]]. [[User:Mhhossein|Mhhossein]] ([[User talk:Mhhossein|talk]]) 07:18, 20 December 2015 (UTC) |
::::::In Wikipedia you can't do all what you prefer and in this case you have to respect the [[Wikipedia:Civility|policies]]. I would not call that {{tq|"robotically spit[ing] out policies and platitudes while maintaining an exaggerated pretense of innocence and civility."}} You can't judge the sources based on your own [[WP:OR]]. Any way, I think instead I'd better take it to the [[WP:RSN|boards]]. [[User:Mhhossein|Mhhossein]] ([[User talk:Mhhossein|talk]]) 07:18, 20 December 2015 (UTC) |
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As per the discussion at the board, the source is bad. to be frank khmenia source should be considered comedy seeing the kind of stuff they print. A mere cursory perusal gives us the great gems of information that Israel is backing boko haram, America being responsible for every calamity to befall Islam is now also backing ISIS and everything that ever happened to Iran can be traced to the "accursed" jews. With such a mighty intellectual like the grand ayatollah giving us this information who gives a diddly squat about editorial oversight? [[User:FreeatlastChitchat|FreeatlastChitchat]] ([[User talk:FreeatlastChitchat|talk]]) 03:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC) |
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New box photo
I created new mix-picture for article-box with full-caption. what is your idea? Alborzagros (talk) 10:16, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
![](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/24/Iran-Iraq_war-gallery.png/350px-Iran-Iraq_war-gallery.png)
- Support Alborzagros (talk) 10:22, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
- Alborzagros: That's funny. You suggest and you support! Anyway, the new collection is comprehensive. Thanks. Mhhossein (talk) 07:44, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose due to the hilariously bad English to be frank and because of the variations in meaning portrayed through that utterly bad English. Military voluntarily use of children in iran-iraq war in iranian fronts.. What does this mean anyway? FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 04:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose. Another Iranian editor incapable of objectivity on this matter.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 04:36, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
- Wait, why are we voting? The changes have already been made! Obviously, the pictures (especially the USS Stark) were selected to make the Iraqis look bad, but at least the whitewashing of the Iranian children eagerly participating in "voluntary" human wave attacks was dropped.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 04:42, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
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Al-Anfal Campaign civilian dead
I changed the number from the 182,000 claimed by the Kurds to 50,000-100,000, a statistic given by Human Rights Watch because the actual page on that event considers Human Rights Watch to be more credible than the Kurdish sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.84.226.174 (talk) 01:56, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Brazen pro-Iranian lies
The article repeatedly, falsely claims that the main obstacle to peace from 1982 to 1988 was the refusal of Iraq to totally withdraw from Iranian territory when Iraq publicly offered to do just that within two weeks of the cease fire. I am attaching a neutrality tag until these lies are removed.
65.186.210.25 (talk) 00:03, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
Global policy+Khamenei.ir
Hey UCaetano. Could I ask how you found those sources unreliable? Mhhossein (talk) 21:15, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
- From WP:RS: "Articles should be based on reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy.". That website doesn't satisfy any of those criteria. Really, look at this for example. UCaetano (talk) 16:46, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
- UCaetano: I know the definition but you failed to show why it is unreliable (how did you concluded unreliablity based on the pic?). The article is well referenced (just check the refs). Besides you have removed the "Global policy" which is supporting the material. Mhhossein (talk) 06:07, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- We get it, Mhhossein. You're an Iranian nationalist, and your purpose on Wikipedia is to promote the Iranian party line on all articles related to Iran as well as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. That article is, however, blatant propaganda with material copied-and-pasted from Wikipedia and other worthless sources and devoted to the great Imam Khomeini, and if you really believe it qualifies as a reliable source I suggest you take it up at WP:RSN.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 06:55, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- Did you know that you just made a personal attack repeating which might get you blocked?
"Comment on content, not on the contributor"
, please. You could explain why the source was not reliable in a civil manner. I think you did not read my comment completely because I had also mentioned "Global policy". Mhhossein (talk) 11:43, 19 December 2015 (UTC)- I prefer to call a spade a spade, rather than to robotically spit out policies and platitudes while maintaining an exaggerated pretense of innocence and civility. Khamenei.ir also blames Britain for the deaths of up to 10 million Iranians during the World War 1 era famine, which (as far as I can tell, at least) is probably more than the entire population of the affected areas of Iran at the time (the causes of the famine were varied, but a more reasonable estimate for the death toll seems to be a figure of up to 2 million, which is certainly tragic enough without any need for exaggeration). To my knowledge, the Global Policy Forum isn't a great source, either, though it would certainly be valid as a situational source if nothing else.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 13:55, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- In Wikipedia you can't do all what you prefer and in this case you have to respect the policies. I would not call that
"robotically spit[ing] out policies and platitudes while maintaining an exaggerated pretense of innocence and civility."
You can't judge the sources based on your own WP:OR. Any way, I think instead I'd better take it to the boards. Mhhossein (talk) 07:18, 20 December 2015 (UTC)
- In Wikipedia you can't do all what you prefer and in this case you have to respect the policies. I would not call that
- I prefer to call a spade a spade, rather than to robotically spit out policies and platitudes while maintaining an exaggerated pretense of innocence and civility. Khamenei.ir also blames Britain for the deaths of up to 10 million Iranians during the World War 1 era famine, which (as far as I can tell, at least) is probably more than the entire population of the affected areas of Iran at the time (the causes of the famine were varied, but a more reasonable estimate for the death toll seems to be a figure of up to 2 million, which is certainly tragic enough without any need for exaggeration). To my knowledge, the Global Policy Forum isn't a great source, either, though it would certainly be valid as a situational source if nothing else.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 13:55, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- Did you know that you just made a personal attack repeating which might get you blocked?
- We get it, Mhhossein. You're an Iranian nationalist, and your purpose on Wikipedia is to promote the Iranian party line on all articles related to Iran as well as the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. That article is, however, blatant propaganda with material copied-and-pasted from Wikipedia and other worthless sources and devoted to the great Imam Khomeini, and if you really believe it qualifies as a reliable source I suggest you take it up at WP:RSN.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 06:55, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
- UCaetano: I know the definition but you failed to show why it is unreliable (how did you concluded unreliablity based on the pic?). The article is well referenced (just check the refs). Besides you have removed the "Global policy" which is supporting the material. Mhhossein (talk) 06:07, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
Reliable source noticeboard
As per the discussion at the board, the source is bad. to be frank khmenia source should be considered comedy seeing the kind of stuff they print. A mere cursory perusal gives us the great gems of information that Israel is backing boko haram, America being responsible for every calamity to befall Islam is now also backing ISIS and everything that ever happened to Iran can be traced to the "accursed" jews. With such a mighty intellectual like the grand ayatollah giving us this information who gives a diddly squat about editorial oversight? FreeatlastChitchat (talk) 03:43, 23 December 2015 (UTC)