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Will cross-post to [[WP:FRINGE/N]], as this talk page does not seem to be very active. -- <span style="font-family:monospace">[ [[User:UseTheCommandLine|<span style="color:red">UseTheCommandLine</span>]] ~/[[User talk:UseTheCommandLine|<span style="color:blue">talk</span>]] ]# ▄</span> 08:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC) |
Will cross-post to [[WP:FRINGE/N]], as this talk page does not seem to be very active. -- <span style="font-family:monospace">[ [[User:UseTheCommandLine|<span style="color:red">UseTheCommandLine</span>]] ~/[[User talk:UseTheCommandLine|<span style="color:blue">talk</span>]] ]# ▄</span> 08:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC) |
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:It's [[WP:FRINGE]] to call [[pansexuality]] a [[sexual orientation]], as agreed upon by various editors time and time again at relevant talk pages; it is not WP:FRINGE to call it a [[sexual identity]] or to state that some people view it as a sexual orientation. See [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Sexology/Evidence&diff=552114021&oldid=545140683#Evidence_presented_by_Flyer22 this statement] made by me during [[Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Sexology]] for a summary of why it is indeed WP:FRINGE to call pansexuality a sexual orientation. I will leave a note about this at the WP:Fringe noticeboard as well, in the section you started about this. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 09:38, 15 August 2013 (UTC) |
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Vandalism
Someone vandalized the beginning of the article. Seeing as I can't remove it, it has to be a hack. Please have someone come fix this.
Polysexual
Why is there no mention of there being people who are polysexual, this article presupposes the idea that sex is binary and doesn't allow for intersexuals to be a part of sexuality (that is, if we accept that narrow concepts in it). For more information on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysexual http://frank.mtsu.edu/~phollowa/5sexes.html
Even if you don't agree that there are more than two sexes (according to the current classifications of what is is to be a man or a woman) it ought to be included in the article as this is about a belief system. The belief that there are 2 sexes vs the belief that there are more than 2 sexes within the human species. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.86.111.140 (talk) 00:00, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
I can agree it has a place in the article, but I think you're confusing sex and gender. Aside from rare cases of true hermaphroditism, the sexual binary stands, a given individual is going to genetically be a man or a woman. Gender is what one views themselves as and expects society to, and many cultures have over 2 genders. This being an article about human sexuality, your point still stands and I think it is a valid addition. Just as homosexuality is a valid topic. Atombomb93 (talk) 18:25, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
So, aside from legitimate (if rare) examples of the third case, let's just go on talking as if there are only two sexes? And the adjective "true" in front of hermaphroditism also clearly hides perhaps further categories. In point of fact, what precisely should be taken as the biological determination for "man" or "woman". The chromosomes? And the fact that there are a range of variations (not merely idiosyncratic expressions, but classes of variation found in more than one person) within those chromosomes shall be ignored for the sake of shoe-horning everyone into "male" or "female"? The article could simply acknowledge what the standard definitions are for these things, so long as the wider range of expression is also acknowledged. Lastly, since human sexual expression is prior to language (and thus categories like "man" or "woman"), then one can see it's not too irrational to suggest that people who today we would call homosexual could not have been seen as another sex (and I do mean "sex" not "gender"). In any case, the fact of hermaphroditism necessitates not insisting on the binary. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talastra (talk • contribs) 22:42, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
Asexual
I think that the possibility of asexuality should be included in this article, perhaps in the sexual attraction section. The way the article is written, it doesn't seem to allow for the possibility of no sexual attraction to naturally occur in humans. One possible link on the subject is AVEN, the Asexual Visibility and Education Network (http://www.asexuality.org/home/). Alternately, a link to (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality) could be included. 128.211.192.105 (talk) 02:35, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
The definition
"The ways in which people experience and express themselves as sexual beings; the awareness of themselves as males or females; the capacity they have for erotic experiences and responses." I think the second part of the definition is confusing. Sexual identity or sexual self-identification is our awareness as males, females or third sex etc... Այնշախոր (talk) 06:08, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
Relevant Resources
Here are relevant resources that I will be using when revamping this article.
1) “Sex Matters: The Sexuality and Society Reader” by Mindy Stombler, Dawn M. Baunach, Elisabeth O. Burgess, Denise Donnelly, and Wendy Simonds. 2) “Human Sexuality Today” by Bruce M. King 3) “Effecting Science, Affecting Medicine: Homosexuality, The Kinsey Reports, and The Contested Boundaries of Psychopathology in the United States, 1948-1965” by Howard Hsueh-Hao Chiang. 4) “Sexes: Masters and Johnson on Homosexuality” by Time Magazine 5) The Kinsey Institute Online Website 6) "Major Patterns of Change and Continuity: World History in Brief" by Peter N. Stearns 7) PBS Documentary "Kinsey" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aprilmehta (talk • contribs) 06:21, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Aprilmehta (talk) 16:21, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
total rennovation of the Human Sexuality article
We revised the introduction to better explain the new format and topics discussed in the article. The sections edited include the introduction, Nature vs. Nurture debate, biology and physiology. In the bio section anatomy, sexual response and sexual dysfunction were added. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Briannaorozco (talk • contribs) 16:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
RE: History section
I decided that this section fits perfect in sociocultural aspects because human history has major influences on how society views sexuality. Aprilmehta (talk) 08:53, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Our total renovations first draft is complete...Please allow us at least 24 hours to complete this renovation. Aprilmehta (talk) 09:39, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
- It won't be complete until you address the major problems for which I reverted it yesterday. Things like "Upon reading this article, someone will walk away with a piece of mind as to how society explains sexuality in humans" are not appropriate in an encyclopedia article. And please fixing the over-capitalization of headings; and the large number of redlinks that result from putting punctuation inside the wikilink markup. Then it will at least start to look like a wikipedia article, after which you can work on fixing the content errors. Dicklyon (talk) 15:47, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
Evolutionary aspects
This section needs major work. All of this information is ridiculous.
Aprilmehta (talk) 17:42, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
Timing Issue
Sexual Response Cycle, paragraph 2 states, "The third stage, orgasm, during which rhythmic contractions occur every eighth of a second, consist ..."
First off, minor grammar issue, that should be consistS.
More importantly, "every eighth of a second," means it happens eight times a second, which is clearly wrong. I believe the figure is once every 0.8 seconds, but have not the time today to locate a proper authority for that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hilde27 (talk • contribs) 13:32, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for bringing this up. I believe that I've fixed the minor grammar issue, and the eighth of a second problem. I also added a "verification needed" tag, since I'm too tired to look for a source right now. The figure may be off, but it's still much better than it was. My face is red on this one... the text was originally "every eight seconds" which was also clearly wrong. I changed it to every eighth of a second without giving it much thought - doh! kyledueck (talk) 23:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
Images
While it is perfectly acceptable to include an image of female genitals close up in a factual article, together with a diagram, it is noticeable that there is no comparable image of male genitals, though there is a diagram for this. There are two alternative ways to solve this problem: one is to remove the photo of female genitals. The other is to add a photo of male genitals. Failing to do that, one cannot take this page seriously as a factual site - it is clearly affected by some kind of prejudice which does not do justice to the apparently documentary style of the page and site. I have read the whole page but this flaw undermines its credibility. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elijahswatch (talk • contribs) 11:40, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
Christian/Catholic views of sexuality
The two paragraphs dealing with Christian and Catholic views of sexuality are puerile and unsubstantiated.
Stating that "St. Paul regarded the body as evil" is a hopeless generalization of a very complex view that includes statements such as "your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God?" (I Cor 6:19) I have deleted the reference to the missionary position as a runoff of St. Paul's teaching because it has no source and is not relevant. The statement that "Saint Augustine believed that sex was sinful" is patently false and has no source, so I have revised those as well. I find it humorous that the writer of this section gratuitously includes a statement that Augustine's "assumptions are contradicted" by the Bible, when in fact Augustine's knowledge of Scripture was unparalleled.
The most egregious misinformation, which I have revised, states that "traditional Catholic views on sexuality place sexuality to be sinful": a statement which, besides improper grammar, has no foundation in any Catholic thinkers, past or present. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.37.7 (talk) 17:03, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
Pansexuality as "fringe"?
An editor, Edgth has now twice removed a cited passage about pansexuality, asserting that it is "fringe". I do not believe this to be the case; the cited passage is from a reference text. If there is a dispute about weight, that is something that can be discussed, but that is a different matter. Further, this editor cites the number of page watchers and the length of time since the edit was made as evidence that it is uncontroversial, and I believe this to be inappropriate.
Will cross-post to WP:FRINGE/N, as this talk page does not seem to be very active. -- [ UseTheCommandLine ~/talk ]# ▄ 08:46, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
- It's WP:FRINGE to call pansexuality a sexual orientation, as agreed upon by various editors time and time again at relevant talk pages; it is not WP:FRINGE to call it a sexual identity or to state that some people view it as a sexual orientation. See this statement made by me during Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Sexology for a summary of why it is indeed WP:FRINGE to call pansexuality a sexual orientation. I will leave a note about this at the WP:Fringe noticeboard as well, in the section you started about this. Flyer22 (talk) 09:38, 15 August 2013 (UTC)