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The phrasing seems to be clear on how Simona is to be cited, as the source article states "Aromanca get-beget", which Google Translate says "Aromanca true-born". It does not state "Macedonian (Greek Latin) born". Furthermore, on checking the wiki article on [[Aromanians]] the opening paragraph does seem to make clear that that they are just that: Macedonia Greek Latin. So, I'm changing the wording to reflect the source. [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] ([[User talk:Tabercil|talk]]) 14:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC) |
The phrasing seems to be clear on how Simona is to be cited, as the source article states "Aromanca get-beget", which Google Translate says "Aromanca true-born". It does not state "Macedonian (Greek Latin) born". Furthermore, on checking the wiki article on [[Aromanians]] the opening paragraph does seem to make clear that that they are just that: Macedonia Greek Latin. So, I'm changing the wording to reflect the source. [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] ([[User talk:Tabercil|talk]]) 14:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC) |
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== Macedonian (Greek Latin) == |
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I am sorry but you are lying. That article says she is "makedonian". If you want to make politics do it on the politics articles. Our community came in Romania as MACEDONIAN even before the FYROM state was born. So the term MACEDONIAN is not a strange one in the Romanian European Academy. More than this truth, in Greece, the scientists consider ourselves as the ancient greeks who where latinised in the Roman Empire (Roman Macedonia). So there is not a scientifical mistake with the term GREEK. |
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I hope you will take care about your own history. Greece (Macedonia) is not Dacia. You must learn to respect the european cultures who made Europe through centuries (Greece - Macedonia, Italy, France, England, Germany and so on). But first of all you must accept your true history. Maybe then you will respect the others as they deserve it. ([[User:Makedonovlah|Makedonovlah]] ([[User talk:Makedonovlah|talk]]) 14:50, 31 May 2014 (UTC)) |
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==Explanation== |
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The headline is enough to accept my action. I believe you are romanian (ethnically). Read the headline: ,,machedoanca get-beget, care respecta cu sfintentie traditiile aromanilor". Our ethnically name used in your romanian mother tongue can be "aromani" = aromanians. But you don't have the right to command our name in the english language. We are Greeks as well as Latins and we are autochtonous in the Historical Macedonia. When my people have had an academy and a grammar book (Macedo-ROMAN-LATIN) the Romanian Academy wasn't born yet. So leave the politics and respect the european cultures because with their support you are now happy when you read Aristotel and Shakespeare (just an example). I hope The Masters of Europe (romanian wiki) will give attention to their own ethnically articles. ([[User:Makedonovlah|Makedonovlah]] ([[User talk:Makedonovlah|talk]]) 15:06, 31 May 2014 (UTC)) |
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:I have ZERO connection to the Balkans - I am a Canadian citizen, I live in Canada, my ancestors all came from the United Kingdom and i've never travelled to continental Eurpoe. All I'm going by is what the article which ''you'' added says, which is the actual word "Aromanca". Furthermore, I would like to point out that your edits are highly disruptive and constitute more heat than light. You were warned in the past regarding making "cheap national polemics and personal attacks", and continuing to make those sorts of edits will end up getting you sanctioned. [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] ([[User talk:Tabercil|talk]]) 15:16, 31 May 2014 (UTC) |
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==You are lying again== |
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,, You were warned in the past'' - So you know all my activity since the beginnings of time. You dont have any connection with the Balcans but are interested with only ONE WORD from the headline. The other word doesn't exists for you. |
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,,Cheap National polemis" - you have just described your own attitude. ([[User:Makedonovlah|Makedonovlah]] ([[User talk:Makedonovlah|talk]]) 15:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC)) |
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:True it does say Macedonian in the title, but it also says Aromanca within the text body. On further Googling to try and resolve the contradiction, I found a fresh source which is a profile of her where her words are present - [http://femeidinsport.ro/simona-halep-aromanca-de-care-este-mandra-romania-intreaga/ here]. As I gather from it, she self-views herself as Aromanca and as such I will be phrasing the article to reflect that. Lastly, I strongly urge you to keep a civil tone otherwise you ''will'' end up being blocked. [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] ([[User talk:Tabercil|talk]]) 15:53, 31 May 2014 (UTC) |
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==Maybe the truly european admins will block you - Tabercil== |
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* Be CALM and RESPECT the OTHERS!! You are not the Master of Europe and the wiki-romanians dont have the right to command the people's name in the ENGLISH language([[User:Makedonovlah|Makedonovlah]] ([[User talk:Makedonovlah|talk]]) 16:25, 31 May 2014 (UTC)) |
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:: I am calm. I'm not the one using capitols and exclamation marks. And as I pointed out, Simona herself uses the phrase "aromân" or "aromâni" within the source I provided. That's what counts, not how you feel it should be used. [[User:Tabercil|Tabercil]] ([[User talk:Tabercil|talk]]) 17:07, 31 May 2014 (UTC) |
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Rollback
Note, I rolled this page back due to some irrelevant statements added to the end of the page about the young lady in question being "well endowed".
She is more famous than a #350 or so ranked tennis player deserves to be. I saw the item deleted and while *that* phrasing deserved to be removed, let's not kid ourselves as to why she is on people's radar. 149.79.35.227 (talk) 16:29, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
Reliable Sources
This recent edit was likely prompted by this story on "Sports by Brooks -- Sports Celebrity Gossip Since 2001" an "independently-owned general sports blog". This would not appear to meet WP:Reliable sources guidelines. Any real news will undoubtedly be picked up by a reliable source, such as The Sun. -- Thinking of England (talk) 06:11, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- If you want reliable sources, try the UK's Independent ("to undergo surgery in a bid to improve her game") or, less respectably, the Sydney Daily Telegraph ("way out in front in junior internationals" where her "amazing form has won her an army of fans"). Earthlyreason (talk) 13:29, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
Breasts/Breast Reduction
I know this topic has been discussed before, but it plainly needs to be discussed again.
I won't deny that most of the edits concerning Simona's breasts have been crude (to be polite about it), but the undeniable fact is that the main reason she is known has little to do with her tennis ability. If you want some proof of this coming from a "reliable" website, simply go to the official website for the French Open, and you'll note that while most of the popular pictures are of past champions or recent contenders, the first picture is of the 2008 Girls' Champion. If you prefer to Google her name, there are more results for "Simona Halep breasts" than "Simona Halep tennis player", and most of the latter results are about her breasts anyway.
As far as her rumored breast reduction, I agree that there don't seem to be any well-known sports websites that covered the story, but let's face it, their writers and editors are probably reluctant to publish a story involving the breasts of a then 17-year-old girl.
Therefore, I propose that so long as it is worded tastefully, any Wikipedia article of Simona Halep *has* to include a mention of her breasts, since her level of fame is almost entirely tied to them. Drpickem (talk) 15:02, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
- Anyway, apparently she had the boob reduction operation in summer 2009, which makes the whole episode pretty much non-notable, unless she becomes enormously famous. Earthlyreason (talk) 15:27, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- I stumbled across a brief mention of her breast reduction in a recent article by John Wertheim over at SI.com, so I think we can finally agree that her rumored breast reduction is no longer mere speculation. Again, since she's primarily best known for a few curvaceous tennis action photographs as opposed to her actual success as a junior in tennis, I think it's notable whether she becomes a top star or not. Drpickem (talk) 01:29, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think it'll eventually get in there, though it'll probably have to wait for a direct reference in a reliable source. The SI story, while a reliable source, is more an indirect reference. Tabercil (talk) 02:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- Is the Daily Mail a reliable enough source? This article is about the reduction. Deadlock (talk) 14:10, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think it'll eventually get in there, though it'll probably have to wait for a direct reference in a reliable source. The SI story, while a reliable source, is more an indirect reference. Tabercil (talk) 02:17, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- I stumbled across a brief mention of her breast reduction in a recent article by John Wertheim over at SI.com, so I think we can finally agree that her rumored breast reduction is no longer mere speculation. Again, since she's primarily best known for a few curvaceous tennis action photographs as opposed to her actual success as a junior in tennis, I think it's notable whether she becomes a top star or not. Drpickem (talk) 01:29, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
Too much detail
As soon as this girl either rises to stardom or disappears without trace, all these tedious details of match scores need to be curtailed.Earthlyreason (talk) 13:18, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
- Nooo, leave the details alone! Details are nice... -- NakiBest (talk) 16:31, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
- Actually this article isn't any different from any other tennis article - they all have match scores present. Tabercil (talk) 22:12, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
Aromanian vs. Macedonian (Greek Latin)
The phrasing seems to be clear on how Simona is to be cited, as the source article states "Aromanca get-beget", which Google Translate says "Aromanca true-born". It does not state "Macedonian (Greek Latin) born". Furthermore, on checking the wiki article on Aromanians the opening paragraph does seem to make clear that that they are just that: Macedonia Greek Latin. So, I'm changing the wording to reflect the source. Tabercil (talk) 14:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Macedonian (Greek Latin)
I am sorry but you are lying. That article says she is "makedonian". If you want to make politics do it on the politics articles. Our community came in Romania as MACEDONIAN even before the FYROM state was born. So the term MACEDONIAN is not a strange one in the Romanian European Academy. More than this truth, in Greece, the scientists consider ourselves as the ancient greeks who where latinised in the Roman Empire (Roman Macedonia). So there is not a scientifical mistake with the term GREEK.
I hope you will take care about your own history. Greece (Macedonia) is not Dacia. You must learn to respect the european cultures who made Europe through centuries (Greece - Macedonia, Italy, France, England, Germany and so on). But first of all you must accept your true history. Maybe then you will respect the others as they deserve it. (Makedonovlah (talk) 14:50, 31 May 2014 (UTC))
Explanation
The headline is enough to accept my action. I believe you are romanian (ethnically). Read the headline: ,,machedoanca get-beget, care respecta cu sfintentie traditiile aromanilor". Our ethnically name used in your romanian mother tongue can be "aromani" = aromanians. But you don't have the right to command our name in the english language. We are Greeks as well as Latins and we are autochtonous in the Historical Macedonia. When my people have had an academy and a grammar book (Macedo-ROMAN-LATIN) the Romanian Academy wasn't born yet. So leave the politics and respect the european cultures because with their support you are now happy when you read Aristotel and Shakespeare (just an example). I hope The Masters of Europe (romanian wiki) will give attention to their own ethnically articles. (Makedonovlah (talk) 15:06, 31 May 2014 (UTC))
- I have ZERO connection to the Balkans - I am a Canadian citizen, I live in Canada, my ancestors all came from the United Kingdom and i've never travelled to continental Eurpoe. All I'm going by is what the article which you added says, which is the actual word "Aromanca". Furthermore, I would like to point out that your edits are highly disruptive and constitute more heat than light. You were warned in the past regarding making "cheap national polemics and personal attacks", and continuing to make those sorts of edits will end up getting you sanctioned. Tabercil (talk) 15:16, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
You are lying again
,, You were warned in the past - So you know all my activity since the beginnings of time. You dont have any connection with the Balcans but are interested with only ONE WORD from the headline. The other word doesn't exists for you.
,,Cheap National polemis" - you have just described your own attitude. (Makedonovlah (talk) 15:23, 31 May 2014 (UTC))
- True it does say Macedonian in the title, but it also says Aromanca within the text body. On further Googling to try and resolve the contradiction, I found a fresh source which is a profile of her where her words are present - here. As I gather from it, she self-views herself as Aromanca and as such I will be phrasing the article to reflect that. Lastly, I strongly urge you to keep a civil tone otherwise you will end up being blocked. Tabercil (talk) 15:53, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
Maybe the truly european admins will block you - Tabercil
- Be CALM and RESPECT the OTHERS!! You are not the Master of Europe and the wiki-romanians dont have the right to command the people's name in the ENGLISH language(Makedonovlah (talk) 16:25, 31 May 2014 (UTC))