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{{ping|84.90.140.221}} {{ping|148.69.12.92}} Please stop changing Walker's date of birth without a reliable source, his current DOB is provided by his [http://www.billboard.com/artist/6866581/alan-walker/biography biography from Billboard]. Moreover, you are currently engaged in an [[WP:EW|edit war]] as you have violated the [[WP:3RR|three-revert rule]], being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing. Thank you. [[User:Hayman30|Hayman30]] ([[User talk:Hayman30|talk]]) 10:08, 7 April 2017 (UTC) |
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Song that only he could write mysic for
I wrote a sing about my 9 year old daughter, only I cant write nusic, I can sing, the only musician in the world that could make this song a reality is Alan Walker. Lgeisler1964 (talk) 01:03, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
What is that song you mentioned? DJ Baguio (talk) 23:09, 14 August 2016 (UTC)
'Sing me to sleep' is my favorite, the vocals are outstanding, but it's the beat that makes it extraordinary.... Signor Fuzzy Bear (talk) 19:17, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
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Infobox -> citizenship
Anyone who regularly edits this page, Are there any sources on his citizenship? I have a very similar situation to Alan with my parents and where I was born and I hold two citizenships. Are we positive that Alan isn't a dual citizen to both the UK and Norway? Seems to me that his infobox should read:
- Norway (1997-present)
United Kingdom (1997-present)
Just a thought,
Briscut (talk) 19:44, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
- The information presented in the infobox is taken from the laws listed on following Wikipedia articles, and I quote:
- Regardless of the place of birth, a child acquires Norwegian citizenship at birth if either parent is a Norwegian citizen. Originally, citizenship was only passed on to the children of Norwegian mothers, as they were the only provable parents, but over time a presumption of paternal parentage created citizenship for the child, and eventually even excluded the maternal jus sanguinis. In more recent times, as of 1 January 1979, mothers' rights to automatically pass on their Norwegian citizenship has been reestablished. The requirement that the mother and father be married to one another was abolished on 1 September 2006.
- British subjects (other than British subjects by virtue of a connection with the Republic of Ireland) and British protected persons lose British nationality upon acquiring any other form of nationality.
- Norway - allows dual citizenship only in exceptional cases. A Norwegian citizen who voluntarily acquires another citizenship automatically loses Norwegian citizenship without notification, and foreigners wanting to naturalize must usually renounce their old citizenship. For details, see Norwegian nationality law - Dual citizenship.
- In most cases, when one becomes a citizen of Norway, it is required as a principal rule that he/she renounce any other citizenship (thereby avoiding dual citizenship). In certain cases there are exceptions from this requirement, and double citizenship is allowed if... :
- I may be wrong, but this is what I get out of the laws, to claim that he only has one citizenship.
- @OnWikiNo: Good work on finding all of those. I almost just want to just write in Norwegian since it looks like you are one but it's an English article so better not. Here's my take on each of those:
- Norwegian nationality law#Descent from a Norwegian parent
Reads straight to the point, if you have a Norwegian parent you are a Norwegian citizen no matter where you are born. A child is also a citizen of the country they are born in too, I was born to a Norwegian mother in the US so I have both a US citizenship and a Norwegian. - British nationality law#Loss of British nationality
This one took me the longest to understand but this is how I understand it. If Alan was to move to and live in a country where he isn't a citizen, any country but Norway or somewhere in the UK, and he wanted to become a citizen then he would lose his British citizenship. - Multiple citizenship#EFTA countries
I believe this is just like the one above except he would lose his Norwegian. So if Alan moved to Germany and tried to become a German citizen he would lose both his Norwegian and his British citizenships. - Norwegian nationality law#Dual citizenship
I wish it was given as an example here but I see this just like above, if you have both citizenships at birth you are fine but if you try for another then you lose your Norwegian citizenship.
- Norwegian nationality law#Descent from a Norwegian parent
- How do you see it? The only thing that came up for me was when I was 22 I had to submit papers asking to keep my Norwegian citizenship because I wasn't in Norway and paying taxes. The papers I submitted asked which years I lived in Norway and my identification number. Maybe in the U.K. there is something similar and he didn't retain his citizenship after he became an adult but I think when he moved to Norway he was still a British citizen. What are your thoughts though?
Briscut (talk) 05:51, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
- I must say I agree with you to some point after looking deeper through sites about citizenship legislations. I see that you have experience from having a dual citizenship (one of them in Norway), so it is possible that the same applies to Alan.
- But I already know that the Norwegian authorities make it difficult for people to get or retain dual citizenship. See for example the activist group called "Yes to dual citizenship" [Ja til dobbelt statsborgerskap] in Norway on these pages: http://statsborgerskap.info/ and https://www.facebook.com/JaTilDobbeltStatsborgerskap/, which demands the authorities to allow Norwegians to have dual citizenship. The authorities and UDI [Utlendingsdirektoratet] claims that only a few people allows to retain this, and I wonder when so many people are born of parents abroad by a Norwegian parent and vice versa, that they then claims it to only happening in rare cases when so may have the ability/right to have dual citizenship by birth. But it also could be a bad clarification from the authorities, I don't know.
- I recently discovered some information on The Norwegian Directorate of Immigration (UDI) web site: https://www.udi.no/ord-og-begreper/dobbelt-statsborgerskap/ supporting what you says about Dual citizenship, and I translated it to English:
- "Who can have dual citizenship?"
- "You can have dual citizenship if you got one citizenship from each of your parents when you were born. If one of your parents is Norwegian, you were probably automatically Norwegian citizenship at birth. If the country to the other parent has the same rule, you also get this citizenship and you can then have dual citizenship. This applies only if you automatically became a citizen of both countries when you were born, not if your parents did something active (for example, made an application or message) that you might get other nationality."
- "Who can have dual citizenship?"
- Here it says that the same law also must applies in the country where Alan was born - to have the same affect in both countries, Great Britain in this case. But I'm not quite sure how the legislation in Britain is designed.
- If it turns out that he has dual citizenship, there is then no longer any point to erect it in the info box, but rather mention a sentence about it under "Early life". It was written and clarified in the info box to show when and where he became a citizen (because many readers seemed to be confused about his conections towards these countries), but if he has been a citizen of both countries in his whole life, there is no longer a need to distinguish it.
- @OnWikiNo: You don't think that the activist group is lobbying for refugees to be able to hold/keep their citizenship from where they came from and get one from Norway as well? I haven't had time to read much since I'm on a work trip. Truthfully, I don't think that part of the infobox matters too much with how exact it is, I just saw that his history is similar to mine in a way and thought it might be wrong. If there isn't an interview with him talking about it then I don't think it matters too much, there's other info that's more important.
Briscut (talk) 04:04, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- @OnWikiNo: You don't think that the activist group is lobbying for refugees to be able to hold/keep their citizenship from where they came from and get one from Norway as well? I haven't had time to read much since I'm on a work trip. Truthfully, I don't think that part of the infobox matters too much with how exact it is, I just saw that his history is similar to mine in a way and thought it might be wrong. If there isn't an interview with him talking about it then I don't think it matters too much, there's other info that's more important.
- I can agree with you on that, after reading some more in what I have found. It was also therefore I removed the dates of when he got citizenship and when he presumably lost it, but since we aren't sure that he ever lost it, we can only assume that he may have a dual citizenship, something that makes this case less significant to even use time to explaine in the infobox. As I mentioned earlier, i'm still unsure about the laws in the United Kingdom, but since they have high tolerance on dual citizenship, I can only assume it to be easier to retain even when he's residing in Norway. I only chosen to write an centences about it in the "Eary life" section, and the current information in the infobox shoud now be pretty neutral, but if people still thinks it doesn't have a purpose, then it's optional to remove it. Nothing is currently important in this case, as long as he hasn't mentioned it in a interview yet.
- OnWikiNo (talk) 11:00, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
DJ Ness is Whistle but not officially recognized in Wikipedia
User:OnWikiNo, David Whistle might be DJ Ness but that doesn't mean his alias can be used to meet the requirements of infobox policies. As David Whistle, he only collaborated one time (1) with Alan Walker. The topic is about Alan Walker and David Whistle, not DJ Walkzzz and DJ Ness. - TheMagnificentist 14:03, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
- I understand your point, and will leave out the collaboration parameter per se.
- OnWikiNo (talk) 14:25, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Date of birth
@84.90.140.221: @148.69.12.92: Please stop changing Walker's date of birth without a reliable source, his current DOB is provided by his biography from Billboard. Moreover, you are currently engaged in an edit war as you have violated the three-revert rule, being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing. Thank you. Hayman30 (talk) 10:08, 7 April 2017 (UTC)