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There appears to be an issue with the definition of immigration status of the perpetrator. Some news sources are listing Rivera as an illegal immigrant whereas others list him as undocumented immigrant. We should nip this in the bud before there is a constant flip flop of edits regarding the status being illegal or undocumented. Thoughts? — [[User:Mr Xaero|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'>''Mr Xaero''</span>]] [[User talk:Mr Xaero|<sup><span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em black'>☎️</span></sup>]] 13:45, 22 August 2018 (UTC) |
There appears to be an issue with the definition of immigration status of the perpetrator. Some news sources are listing Rivera as an illegal immigrant whereas others list him as undocumented immigrant. We should nip this in the bud before there is a constant flip flop of edits regarding the status being illegal or undocumented. Thoughts? — [[User:Mr Xaero|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'>''Mr Xaero''</span>]] [[User talk:Mr Xaero|<sup><span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em black'>☎️</span></sup>]] 13:45, 22 August 2018 (UTC) |
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:what is to "nip in the bud" the man is an ILLEGAL ALIEN (a person who is in this country illegally). What is an "undocumented immigrant" somebody who lost their legal immigration papers? The reason for the difference in the verbiage is that they have two different meanings. Illegal aliens are CRIMINALS and in this case the man who killed Mollie Tibbetts is obviously that. I'm changing it back to the correct term (illegal alien). <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/2605:E000:A845:CD00:6907:FBF7:A7DB:409E|2605:E000:A845:CD00:6907:FBF7:A7DB:409E]] ([[User talk:2605:E000:A845:CD00:6907:FBF7:A7DB:409E#top|talk]]) 15:16, 22 August 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::Whereas I agree with using the term illegal in describing the immigrant, we should have a consensus before changing it from undocumented. The media reports it as both illegal and undocumented. Please keep a neutral tone when updating the Wikipedia articles. See [[WP:NEUTRAL]]. — [[User:Mr Xaero|<span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.0em 0.0em 0.9em black'>''Mr Xaero''</span>]] [[User talk:Mr Xaero|<sup><span style='color:black;text-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.2em black'>☎️</span></sup>]] 16:02, 22 August 2018 (UTC) |
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Agreed. Once again, the illegal immigrant is getting more respect than the young American girl who was murdered. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.166.40.32|67.166.40.32]] ([[User talk:67.166.40.32#top|talk]]) 16:00, 22 August 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
:Agreed. Once again, the illegal immigrant is getting more respect than the young American girl who was murdered. <!-- Template:Unsigned IP --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/67.166.40.32|67.166.40.32]] ([[User talk:67.166.40.32#top|talk]]) 16:00, 22 August 2018 (UTC)</small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Move proposal
There appears to be a split between "Disappearance of" and "Death of" individuals that have disappeared, but were later found dead. As I will likely not be able to spend any time on Wikipedia before tomorrow morning, I wanted to open a thread here about the possibility of moving this article to Death of Mollie Tibbetts. I have no opinion, one way or the other, but am putting the option out there for discussion. StrikerforceTalk 20:35, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- How about "murder of" Alex of Canada (talk) 23:01, 21 August 2018 (UTC)
- I don't see what's wrong with "Disappearance". It also seems to me a little premature to move the article, in any case. The autopsy hasn't been completed and as far as I can tell her body hasn't officially been identified. – FenixFeather (talk)(Contribs) 00:19, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- So wait until the authorities confirm it was murder. In that case, "Murder of" will not incriminate any suspect.Profhum (talk) 02:58, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Keep the article under the "Disappearance" title until it is further confirmed with authorities as being a murder. — Mr Xaero ☎️ 13:53, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
Immigration Verbiage
There appears to be an issue with the definition of immigration status of the perpetrator. Some news sources are listing Rivera as an illegal immigrant whereas others list him as undocumented immigrant. We should nip this in the bud before there is a constant flip flop of edits regarding the status being illegal or undocumented. Thoughts? — Mr Xaero ☎️ 13:45, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- what is to "nip in the bud" the man is an ILLEGAL ALIEN (a person who is in this country illegally). What is an "undocumented immigrant" somebody who lost their legal immigration papers? The reason for the difference in the verbiage is that they have two different meanings. Illegal aliens are CRIMINALS and in this case the man who killed Mollie Tibbetts is obviously that. I'm changing it back to the correct term (illegal alien). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:A845:CD00:6907:FBF7:A7DB:409E (talk) 15:16, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Whereas I agree with using the term illegal in describing the immigrant, we should have a consensus before changing it from undocumented. The media reports it as both illegal and undocumented. Please keep a neutral tone when updating the Wikipedia articles. See WP:NEUTRAL. — Mr Xaero ☎️ 16:02, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed. Once again, the illegal immigrant is getting more respect than the young American girl who was murdered. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.166.40.32 (talk) 16:00, 22 August 2018 (UTC)