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{{WikiProject Biography |living=yes |listas=Bonin, Jay Richard |class=C}} |
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Thank you ColinFine. I have removed the references that did not refer directly to the subject. I also have a question about COI. I have no relationship, either financial or personal with the subject. I am not being paid and I was not asked to make this page. I am simply another chess player who was shocked that a player of such fame and who is so noteworthy did not have a wikipedia article. I did contact the subject to get DOB and schooling info and asked how he started playing chess. Hence my comment that the bio was "authorized". I did not need any info about his chess career as that info is readily available on the internet and is common knowledge in the chess world. So my question is this: Is is a COI to have met the subject? He is not a friend, I have no "close connection" and I have made every effort to maintain a neutral tone. I do not beiieve that I have any COI here. Thank you. Vlopresto[[User:Vlopresto|Vlopresto]] ([[User talk:Vlopresto|talk]]) 17:55, 11 April 2016 (UTC) |
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== COI and Refimprove == |
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After {{U|Vlopresto}} asked about the orphan tag on this article (since removed by {{U|DESiegel}}), I looked at it. I have added the COI tag on the basis of what V Lopresto said [[WP:HD#Help with article on Jay Richard Bonin|here]]. I have added the BLP-sources after looking at the content. I see for example that the second, third and fourth paragraphs, though abundantly provided with citations, are actually almost completely unsourced. Of the 8 footnotes numbered 5 to 12, only one mentions Bonin: that is number 12, which indeed displays Bonin's winning game against Reshevsky, but tells us nothing about the context, or that by it "Bonin collected his first Grandmaster scalp". The rest are all references for the various people and places mentioned. I was strongly tempted to remove these three whole paragraphs, but I don't see them as contentious, so that would not be appropriate. |
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At the same time, the article as it stands does not meet even our normal criteria for [[WP:verifiability|verifiability]], let alone the higher standard required for [[WP:biographies of living persons|biographies of living persons]]. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 18:45, 10 April 2016 (UTC) |
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:Thank you, {{U|ColinFine}}. But let us remember that [[WP:V]] says only that content must be verifiable, not that it must be verified. Cited sources are only required for direct quotations, and for content that has been or is likely to be challenged under that policy. [[WP:BLP]] requires also that contentious and particularly negative content about a living person be supported by citation, and that if any content is challenged, it be promptly sourced or removed. Of course those are minimum standards, not ideals. It may be that this article needs a search for supplementary sources, and that he use of existing sources needs to be clarified. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]] 20:20, 10 April 2016 (UTC) |
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::Hmm, {{U|DESiegel}}. But [[WP:V]] also says "Any material lacking a reliable source directly supporting it may be removed and should not be restored without an inline citation to a reliable source". It doesn't limit that to contentious material. --[[User:ColinFine|ColinFine]] ([[User talk:ColinFine|talk]]) 22:30, 10 April 2016 (UTC) |
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