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:I see a collegial editor who handled a difficult situation pragmatically. I think I met them by reviewing a rather peculiar draft. Collegial editors with pragmatism are much needed. 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 21:20, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
:I see a collegial editor who handled a difficult situation pragmatically. I think I met them by reviewing a rather peculiar draft. Collegial editors with pragmatism are much needed. 🇺🇦 [[User:Timtrent|<span style="color:#800">Fiddle</span><sup><small>Timtrent</small></sup>]] [[User talk:Timtrent|<span style="color:#070">Faddle</span><sup><small>Talk to me</small></sup>]] 🇺🇦 21:20, 8 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:Greetings. To cut a long story short, I support everyone who is trying to help this project with good faith while kicking out others with bad faith try to grab the tools. So I support you have this right. [[User:Lemonaka|Lemonaka]] ([[User talk:Lemonaka|talk]]) 04:14, 9 January 2023 (UTC) |
:Greetings. To cut a long story short, I support everyone who is trying to help this project with good faith while kicking out others with bad faith try to grab the tools. So I support you have this right. [[User:Lemonaka|Lemonaka]] ([[User talk:Lemonaka|talk]]) 04:14, 9 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:{{done}} for a month. See how you get on and if you haven't had any problems I'll happily grant it permanently. [[User:HJ Mitchell|<b style="color: teal; font-family: Tahoma">HJ Mitchell</b>]] | [[User talk:HJ Mitchell|<span style="color: navy; font-family: Times New Roman" title="(Talk page)">Penny for your thoughts?</span>]] 17:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC) |
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User:Moops
- Moops (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
Currently have the Rollback, pending changes reviewer perms, as well as I am approved for AWB. Current edit count is 12,000+. I regularly patrol the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/Today and try to contribute in as many ways as possible in building the best possible encyclopedia. I humbly request that I be granted the NPP right so that I may further review new pages. I have read all relevant documentation and understand the care that we must exercise if granted this right. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 19:29, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
Automated comment This user has had 1 request for new page reviewer declined in the past 90 days ([1]). — MusikBot talk 19:30, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
- Noting that because of the volume of still-open AfDs that you have been active in recently, admins may be slow in responding to this request as they are waiting to see how those discussions turn out. signed, Rosguill talk 19:59, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- Should I not contribute to any new AfDs until this perm is granted? I did not know that continuing to contribute my voice to such things would cause a delay. That seems odd. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 16:48, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Feel free to continue contributing to new AfDs. The issue is that there are few closed AfD discussions, not that there are too many unclosed AfD discussions. In a few days time, it'll be much clearer how much your understanding aligns witht the outcome / check the quality of your arguments, including where you were part of the minority. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 09:39, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
- Should I not contribute to any new AfDs until this perm is granted? I did not know that continuing to contribute my voice to such things would cause a delay. That seems odd. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 16:48, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
- Noting that because of the volume of still-open AfDs that you have been active in recently, admins may be slow in responding to this request as they are waiting to see how those discussions turn out. signed, Rosguill talk 19:59, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
- I'd like to comment that the applicant got a brief block, that should not be counted against their request. There is an emerging consensus at WP:AN that the block was unfair, so I hope that it will not tarnish this application. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:28, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- I second what Tryptofish says. Some sourpuss blocked Moops for trying to spread a bit of New Year cheer, and the AN discussion is coming down very firmly against the block. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 21:33, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
- (Non-administrator comment) I’m concerned that Moops may have too much of a fast-paced mindset for reviewing at this time. Most of the AFD !votes they have made have been on the day that they asked for this permission, and have sometimes been only a few minutes apart. [2] [3] [4] I’m not sure Moops can show that they have done careful WP:BEFORE work with such speed. Most accurate AFD !votes take much longer than just a few minutes. WP:BEFORE is not a policy, but incorrect or rapid deletion nominations/!votes can be cause for distress for newer editors. The Night Watch (talk) 00:50, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- I review the AfD list and can be known to work efficiently and quickly. Feel free to seek out further comment on my work on that matter if you'd like, but a judgment of that nature that could negatively impact my ability to procure a perm that I feel I could use to further aid the encyclopedia ought not be made lightly. I do not treat my contributions to any AfD lightly, that is 100% certain. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 03:30, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Lastly, I will add that I am entirely versed in WP:BEFORE and do my best to thoroughly carry out parts 'A: Read and understand these policies and guidelines', 'B: Carry out these checks', 'C: Consider whether the article could be improved rather than deleted', and even 'D: Search for additional sources, if the main concern is notability'. As an editor that started back in February of 2022 myself, I am entirely in sympathy, empathy even, with those newer editors that could be discouraged by a too swift of an input that dismisses their hard work. Causing distress for other editors is the absolute last thing that I would ever wish to do, after the debacle today regarding 'Happy New Years' that you can read about on my talk page! That said, I also understand what cannot stand up to muster on the encyclopedia, and what might need tags for improvement or more work. This is an important job, and one that I would not treat with reckless abandon, but rather the utmost care and attention to detail with respect for the work that I am reviewing and all participants involved. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 03:39, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Moops, if you haven't done so already, please consider enrolling in Wikipedia:New pages patrol/School. Getting a one-on-one tutorial from an experienced new page patroller can be very helpful in learning how to avoid potential problems. Given that The Night Watch has raised concerns about editing too rapidly, which is the same kind of concern that arose at AN, I think it would be a good idea for you to work on that skill. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:46, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- That is using the very AN against me that was stated would not be used against me. :( I am well versed in the what is required of a New Pages Reviewer. TY for your comment. — Moops ⋠T⋡ 22:10, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Then I'll clarify. I'm not saying it should be used against you. But I'm trying to make you aware of the issue that hangs over all of this, and is simple enough to resolve. It's good that you've done the homework to be familiar with the process. In that case, the "school" should be a breeze. And having a stamp of approval from an experienced NPP editor would go a long way towards making a strong case for your request. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:23, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'll ping my good wiki-friends Atsme and Kudpung, both of whom are NPP experts. Perhaps if one of them has a bit of time, they could give you some helpful advice. --Tryptofish (talk) 22:33, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'll just note that I considered taking a page Kudpung's notebook and hatting a lot of this discussion earlier today. There's a pretty clear reason why Moops request is on hold and extended discussion isn't going to be what resolves that hold at the moment. Discussing things like NPP School is certainly done in the best of intents and spirits but as we can see even such things can leave a bit of a sour taste in the requestor's mouth. Barkeep49 (talk) 22:37, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- May I ask what "hatting" is, as in
hatting a lot of this discussion earlier today
. I am not familiar with that word/term. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 03:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)- The use of template:hat to close a discussion. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:32, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- May I ask what "hatting" is, as in
- I'll just note that I considered taking a page Kudpung's notebook and hatting a lot of this discussion earlier today. There's a pretty clear reason why Moops request is on hold and extended discussion isn't going to be what resolves that hold at the moment. Discussing things like NPP School is certainly done in the best of intents and spirits but as we can see even such things can leave a bit of a sour taste in the requestor's mouth. Barkeep49 (talk) 22:37, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Worst case, I could be given the perm for a month long trial. That is always the most fair way to test these things if there is a genuine concern, which I believe would be unfounded if there is, but with a trial then I could be tested if there is somehow... — Moops ⋠T⋡ 22:13, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- That is using the very AN against me that was stated would not be used against me. :( I am well versed in the what is required of a New Pages Reviewer. TY for your comment. — Moops ⋠T⋡ 22:10, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Moops, if you haven't done so already, please consider enrolling in Wikipedia:New pages patrol/School. Getting a one-on-one tutorial from an experienced new page patroller can be very helpful in learning how to avoid potential problems. Given that The Night Watch has raised concerns about editing too rapidly, which is the same kind of concern that arose at AN, I think it would be a good idea for you to work on that skill. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:46, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- Lastly, I will add that I am entirely versed in WP:BEFORE and do my best to thoroughly carry out parts 'A: Read and understand these policies and guidelines', 'B: Carry out these checks', 'C: Consider whether the article could be improved rather than deleted', and even 'D: Search for additional sources, if the main concern is notability'. As an editor that started back in February of 2022 myself, I am entirely in sympathy, empathy even, with those newer editors that could be discouraged by a too swift of an input that dismisses their hard work. Causing distress for other editors is the absolute last thing that I would ever wish to do, after the debacle today regarding 'Happy New Years' that you can read about on my talk page! That said, I also understand what cannot stand up to muster on the encyclopedia, and what might need tags for improvement or more work. This is an important job, and one that I would not treat with reckless abandon, but rather the utmost care and attention to detail with respect for the work that I am reviewing and all participants involved. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 03:39, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- I review the AfD list and can be known to work efficiently and quickly. Feel free to seek out further comment on my work on that matter if you'd like, but a judgment of that nature that could negatively impact my ability to procure a perm that I feel I could use to further aid the encyclopedia ought not be made lightly. I do not treat my contributions to any AfD lightly, that is 100% certain. TY — Moops ⋠T⋡ 03:30, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
Not done for now. I'm sorry, Moops, but looking through your deleted contributions, I see very little experience with speedy deletion, which is quite an important part of NPP work (and it can take some time until people are comfortable navigating the criteria – it did for me, at least). I would encourage you to gather some more deletion-related experience first. Keep in mind that a great many NPP tasks (like speedy tagging, AfD nominations, maintenance tagging and stub sorting) can be done without access to the permission; the only thing you're "missing out" on is the button for marking pages as patrolled. As Tryptofish notes above, learning from an experienced editor in NPP school is also a great way to gather experience and get advice. I hope you don't take this as discouragement – this is very much a "not just yet", as opposed to a "not ever". --Blablubbs (talk) 22:40, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- What about the suggested trial? — Moops ⋠T⋡ 23:45, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
- In speedy deletions one is also able to get involved with not being a NPP member. Me too am not active in speedy deletions but mainly approving and with time learning the ropes what to delete. I have double checked some of their participation in deletion discussions here, here, here, here and what I saw, seemed ok if not actually good. We need more reviewers and if we have one applying that doesn't appear to make mistakes, why refuse them? Give them a trial and if they do not cause too an issue within the time given, welcome them into the NPP team. Paradise Chronicle (talk) 16:55, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- We are discussing some new admission modalities here. What do you @Moops think of going through the NPP school? Paradise Chronicle (talk) 17:43, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
User:C1K98V
- C1K98V (requesting Autopatrolled, New page reviewer) (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
Hello, I would like to request for new page reviewer rights, as I want to assist with the backlog. Also I would like to mention my past mistakes (Copyvio) which I won't repeat ever again. I had also reverted some edits with copyvio, seeking admin attention for revdel. I wouldn't be disheartened if my request is declined and will keep the good work. Thanks for your consideration. Happy New Year, stay safe. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 18:24, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
User:GorgeCustersSabre
- GorgeCustersSabre (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
Hello, I have been editing on Wikpedia for over 14 years and I've made 85,000 edits. I have made mistakes along the way, but have never been suspended. So I see myself as a capable and well-intented editor. I would very much like the ability to review new pages, please. Thanks so much, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 07:06, 6 January 2023 (UTC). George Custer's Sabre (talk) 07:06, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
Done, but please see follow up on user talk page regarding user name. signed, Rosguill talk 04:17, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
User:Balph Eubank
- Balph Eubank (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
I would like to request the NP Reviewer user right so that I can help out with New Page Patrol. I was away from Wikipedia for several years for reasons I'm happy to explain if necessary, but I'm back now and believe I have the necessary experience and skill to handle this responsibility skillfully. I have 27 articles created, have performed page moves and work on reliably sourcing articles that require such. - Who is John Galt? ✉ 22:45, 6 January 2023 (UTC) - Who is John Galt? ✉ 22:45, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Balph Eubank: Sorry to pester but your request doesn't really say anything about this right. Rather, it sounds like you're applying for autopatrolled, which you already have. This permission is about patrolling new articles created by others and requires knowledge of deletion processes, notability requirements, detecting and handling spam/copyright violations etc. Is that something you're interested in and, if so, would you like to amend your statement? HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
User:Dawkin Verbier
- Dawkin Verbier (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
I was granted the permission temporarily for a month in December, during which I reviewed and deleted a few dozen pages. Am now requesting for renewed permission so I can contribute over the long term. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 04:52, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Done HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:37, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
User:Elias Ziade
- Elias Ziade (t · th · c · del · cross-wiki · SUL · edit counter · pages created (xtools · sigma) · non-automated edits · BLP edits · undos · manual reverts · rollbacks · logs (blocks · rights · moves) · curation log · patrol log · AFD stats · AFC stats · CSD log · PROD log · Draftify log · Mainspace edits · rfar · spi · cci)
I am a longtime contributor with a full grasp of WP guidelines, as evidenced by my four Four Awards and five featured articles under my name. Onel5969 suggested I apply to join the NPP effort, based on my experience and my fluency in Arabic and French. My language skills can be put to use to help identify (1) problematic NPs using sources in those languages, and (2) NPs related to the Francophone countries and the Arab world. I have been regularly monitoring new pages on the WikiProject I curate, and on the NP feed itself. I have already flagged a number of hoax articles for deletion. I have to note that I was lately involved in an incident, where the creator of the now-deleted hoax draft kept deleting the tags I had placed on that page. This led to an escalation, and to him being permanently banned. Timtrent, Lemonaka, and others handled the situation. el.ziade (talkallam) 19:13, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Greetings. Stumbled across this editor when he left a query on my talk page. I reviewed the incident and subsequent actions and felt that they learned the proper response from their interactions with the named other editors. While I am a proponent of stricter guidelines for the NPP right, I feel this editor would be a valuable addition at this time.Onel5969 TT me 19:23, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
Automated comment An extraneous header or other inappropriate text was removed from this request — MusikBot talk 19:20, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- I see a collegial editor who handled a difficult situation pragmatically. I think I met them by reviewing a rather peculiar draft. Collegial editors with pragmatism are much needed. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 21:20, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- Greetings. To cut a long story short, I support everyone who is trying to help this project with good faith while kicking out others with bad faith try to grab the tools. So I support you have this right. Lemonaka (talk) 04:14, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
Done for a month. See how you get on and if you haven't had any problems I'll happily grant it permanently. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 17:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)