- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. The consensus is that this club is not high enough in the English league pyramid to be notable. There is no consensus here to create an exception to the rule for this club. Mkativerata (talk) 22:20, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Derby Royals Football Club
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This local amateur club has never played in the top 10 levels of the English football league system or in the FA Cup, the usual benchmark for notability at WP:FOOTY ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:26, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:26, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per nom, non-notable club. GiantSnowman 13:35, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Non notable club. Grande (talk) 15:59, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep. Whilst I may be biased on the topic, I feel that the initial point made with regards to the purpose of deleting the topic is not a worthy reason. There is an individual page on the Midlands Regional Alliance which this particular side plays in. Therefore I think it is very realistic to expect people who visit that page would also be interested in learning about the sides who compete in the league. Although I respect this is the highest level the club has played at and the future may count for nothing, there are plans to progress further up the Football League System. The club already has a very good reputation in the city of Derby, where it has forged a partnership with local side Mickleover Sports Club. They play in the EvoStick North league at level 7 of the Football League System, and Derby Royals have already seen players leave the club to sign for such teams as Notts County, Stoke City, Carlisle United and Derby County. I accept any decision which is made for this page and I also respect the procedures you have for making these decisions. But it does appear as though the reasoning behind this page possibly being deleted is because Derby Royals Football Club is not seen as a 'big' enough or popular enough topic to have it's own page, yet the Competition it competes in does. Adding further, I understand and respect that improvements need to be made to this page for it to stand alone within Wikipedia. I fully intend to make these improvements and also contribute to other pages, however I believe myself to be a kinesthetic learner who will improve by doing. I apologise for the length of my argument, but it was the best way in which I could put across my argument. Campbell777 (talk • contribs) 18:14, 2 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Non-notable. Level 13 is far too low. The level they play at is the same as the Trelawny League Premier Division, who boast Illogan Royal British Legion Reserves and Threemilestone (a team that plays in a park near Truro City) among its clubs. Argyle 4 Lifetalk 01:54, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Response. In response to the above, the league you mention has links to sides at that level's wiki pages including Mullion F.C who play at the same level in the Football League System as Derby Royals. It does state in 1992 it achieved Promotion to the South Western League and claims it to be at level 10, however the page its self states it is at level 11. Campbell777 (talk —Preceding undated comment added 10:02, 3 September 2011 (UTC).[reply]
- Keep .this club will be moving to a higher level at the end of the season — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.3.144.78 (talk) 11:59, 3 September 2011 (UTC) — 86.3.144.78 (talk) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. [reply]
- Please see WP:CRYSTAL - there is no way you can guarantee that as an absolute fact nearly a year ahead of time....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 16:33, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Promotion to the next tier isn't by way of promotion. It is by an application and then acceptance. So it is possible for a side to make such progress before the season's end. Sides at that level are also able to play in the FA Cup. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.150.98.217 (talk) 19:54, 3 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, club play at a non-notable level of the English football pyramid. The Essex Olympian Division One (step 12 – a level above discussed team) is pretty much park football, and I don't even think they need a rope around the pitch at that level! If the club reach a notable level, it can be restored without too much hassle. --Jimbo[online] 15:26, 6 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- To correct myself Derby Royals do actually play at the 12th level as opposed to the 13th, it was the 13th last season, which is stated on the Midlands Regional Alliance page. The club plays in a competition which includes Mickleover Sports, Borrowash Victoria, Holbrook Sports, Sandiacre Town, Belper Town and Gresley FC in which Derby Royals were defeated in the final on penalties. Their games are played on a pitch with segregation from the pitch for spectators and dugouts. As well as playing some games each season under floodlights on Mickleover Sports' Ground. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Campbell777 (talk • contribs) 09:58, 7 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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