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The result was delete. -- Cirt (talk) 21:41, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Arsenal F.C. and Barcelona F.C. Rivalry
- Arsenal F.C. and Barcelona F.C. Rivalry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
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Non-notable rivalry. Unreferenced and I couldn't find any references that could be considered in-depth, which is what's required to pass the general notability guideline. Jenks24 (talk) 14:01, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. —Jenks24 (talk) 14:04, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: Two teams from different countries and different leagues play five matches over the course of seven years, and that's a "rivalry?" Unsourced, unreferenced, unconvincing. Ravenswing 11:39, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete as NN. Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:30, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. GiantSnowman 14:12, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - what rivalry?! Unreferenced + a load of nonsense basically. GiantSnowman 14:14, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I was going to agree with everyone above that there isn't much of a rivalry here... but apparently it has actually been noted in reliable sources. Examples: [1] [2][3][4]. Maybe not enough for an article yet, but there's more here than you might first think. Alzarian16 (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. My club has met Luton Town more times in the last decade than these two have and there has been plenty of coverage about the meetings in reliable sources. Does that mean I can create an article for that too? Come off it. Argyle 4 Lifetalk 18:34, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, Plymouth Argyle F.C.#Rivalries actually mentions it in the form of one unsourced sentence, so if that's the best we can do then probably not. (There's no corresponding section in either the Arsenal or Barcelona articles.) The difference is that in this case international reliable sources actually refer to a rivalry by name and mention multiple meetings in single articles. If anything like that exists for Plymouth and Luton, Google can't find it. Alzarian16 (talk) 18:55, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- I'm not surprised because we're not Arse' and Barce', and unfortunately the article about Argyle is rather messy (something I aim to address fully in the future). As a supporter, I remember the battle we had during the 2001–02 season, but online coverage is sparse because of how long ago it was. A rivalry based on a few balanced matches (score wise) and a few one-sided contests, with all the hype from the average journalist thrown in, doesn't merit a stand-alone article. Argyle 4 Lifetalk 20:02, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Well, Plymouth Argyle F.C.#Rivalries actually mentions it in the form of one unsourced sentence, so if that's the best we can do then probably not. (There's no corresponding section in either the Arsenal or Barcelona articles.) The difference is that in this case international reliable sources actually refer to a rivalry by name and mention multiple meetings in single articles. If anything like that exists for Plymouth and Luton, Google can't find it. Alzarian16 (talk) 18:55, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - There is no actual rivalry here. There is no connection between the clubs other than the fact that they have played against each other in a few matches in the last few years. – PeeJay 22:50, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. If you were to ask an Arsenal fan who they considered their club's rivals to be, I very much doubt Barca would be on their list! This sort of fancruft may be appropriate for an dedicated Arsenal wiki, but not here. —BETTIA— talk 09:04, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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