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:@[[User:Bkenny44|Bkenny44]] that isn't the kind of discussion that is typically closed. I would suggest offering a revised version of what you originally suggested that is changed based on the feedback offered by FormalDude, Skdb, and SMcCandlish and see what kind of feedback that suggestion gets. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 21:23, 23 January 2023 (UTC) |
:@[[User:Bkenny44|Bkenny44]] that isn't the kind of discussion that is typically closed. I would suggest offering a revised version of what you originally suggested that is changed based on the feedback offered by FormalDude, Skdb, and SMcCandlish and see what kind of feedback that suggestion gets. Best, [[User:Barkeep49|Barkeep49]] ([[User_talk:Barkeep49|talk]]) 21:23, 23 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Hello, once in a while you gave me valuable recommendations how to deal with possibly disruptive editing in Lithuanian topics. There is a recent case at the administrators noticeboard about an user Marcelus who is actively describing one of the most competent and recognized experts in Lithuanian content [[Zigmas Zinkevičius]] as {{tq|chauvinistic pig}} ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3AGizzyCatBella&diff=1103964583&oldid=1103962424 1], [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AZigmas_Zinkevi%C4%8Dius&diff=1133863884&oldid=1133856103 2]) and saying that his {{tq|intentions is to describe him as such}} ([https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_research%2FNoticeboard&diff=1134913509&oldid=1134912384 3]). Mr. Zinkevičius is one of the most important and acknowledged authors in the main Lithuanian encyclopedias (''[[Visuotinė lietuvių enciklopedija]]'' and ''[https://www.mle.lt/ Mažosios Lietuvos enciklopedija]''), so such intentions can cause significant harm to Lithuanian content and unnecessary [[WP:BATTLEGROUND]]s. Two other users already acknowledged possible serious violations of Wikipedia's rules, including [[WP:SYNTH]], [[WP:POVPUSH]], [[WP:OR]]. So I kindly request you to evaluate this report: [[Wikipedia:Administrators%27 noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive editing by Marcelus]] before it is turned into a skyscraper of text and such actions spreads into other Lithuanian artices. |
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Have a nice day, -- [[User:Pofka|<span style="color:#fdb913;"><strong>Po</strong></span><span style="color:#006a44;"><strong>fk</strong></span><span style="color:#c1272d;"><strong>a</strong></span>]] ([[User talk:Pofka|talk]]) 21:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC) |
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Precious anniversary
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Happy new year! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:56, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Gerda Arendt thanks. A very Happy New Year to you as well. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 15:34, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
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- Thank you. Congratulations to being a chosen arbitrator. I like the discussions for Tchaikovsky, - promising. What do you think about Mozart, on the talk and at User talk:Michael Bednarek? (asking you because you once were the closer, in a rather historic close, in retrospect) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:57, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- Consensus can change and I think we are witnessing the slow change of that consensus in regards to infoboxes. Perhaps one day the consensus will change back or perhaps this will just become so accepted that it becomes an expected default. And yes that close does feel like a milestone of sorts in retrospect. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 16:00, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
- All quite correct in general. Looking closer, a good question has been raised today (Debussy): should the principal editors decide, or the community? (More precisely: an opposer said the principal editors should decide.) In all RfCs sinze Mozart that I noticed (and there were not many, and there was Beethoven before), the community wanted to have to decide, - in a way no surprise. In no case I noticed was that decision reverted. If you want my modest suggestion: we should stop thinking infoboxes are anything special, but treat them like other content: bold edits get reverted and discussed. I feel that in the recent discussions, some of the principal editors didn't treat newbies well, and wonder a bit why the existing DS were not used, to enforce at least civility. - What I came for was pointing at two singers whose performance I enjoyed. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:13, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
- Today's featured article is Osbert Parsley, not by me but Amitchell125 where I commented, including the beginning of my songs. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:56, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Music in general, but certainly music older than the 1960s, is a place where I don't have a lot of knowledge. Which of the songs that you listed on your page was by Parsley? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:14, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Sorry for confusing you ;) - Parsley is one of the more recent FAs about a composer with an infobox, while those an obvious newbie added to Benjamin Britten and Felix Mendelssohn were predictably reverted, - I just wish someone new who has probably no idea of a (former?) conflict would get more education in an edit summary than "restore". I began a new article on my songs, which has nothing to do with Parsley. On vacation - click on songs for images. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:35, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
- Music in general, but certainly music older than the 1960s, is a place where I don't have a lot of knowledge. Which of the songs that you listed on your page was by Parsley? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 17:14, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
Harrassment
User:Carptrash tried to bite the newbie and got bit back. Now he's harassing me through the page User Talk:PorkyPigCouldBeMyFather. 38.52.40.88 (talk) 15:07, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- This “harassment” occurred at Texan Santa Fe Expedition and Limoges (I asked for references or sources for his edits) as well as on his talk page. Check it out. Carptrash (talk) 17:12, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
- I'm not quite sure how this ended up on my talk page and I see the IP has now been blocked which seems reasonable all things considered. That said @Carptrash I'm guessing you didn't mean it this way, but your email to me felt firmly in legal threat territory. Given what happened it's understandable but I thought you'd want to know to avoid doing that in the fute. Barkeep49 (talk) 02:23, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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Adam Neumann Property
Hello Barkeep49. You helped me in the past with the Adam Neuman page, so I wonder if you wouldn’t mind taking a look at my most recent edit request concerning the neutrality of the Property section of Adam Neumann's BLP. If you agree that some clarification is needed to add balance to the sentence in question, I'd greatly appreciate your help with the implementation. Thanks so much, Carlos for Neumann (talk) 12:59, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
- An editor has responded to the request so I suggest discussing this with them. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 14:29, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
You know...
Thanks. Unbelievable, huh. Drmies (talk) 03:45, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
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Old problems made new again
While playing around with collapsing the sidebar, I actually had the opposite problem of most of those who object to the new skin: the wikitext edit box takes up the whole width of the browser window, which I usually have set an uncomfortably large width for editing text. I remember one of the things I liked about the introduction of Vector was that it reduced the width of the edit box to a more manageable size, as it kept the sidebar visible on the edit screen as opposed to monobook, which doesn't. Of course I can toggle the sidebar back on, so it's not an impediment. I have a very plain vanilla setup, with no gadgets configured other than what's available in the user preferences, so I haven't faced any of the compatibility issues that you have seen.
Addendum: pressing "Preview" brings up a page where the edit box is contained with the content area of the preview, so it's limited by the article width. (Hacking the web page to add a "useskin" parameter to the form, I see the same happens with monobook.) isaacl (talk) 00:01, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Tik Tok
Hi Barkeep49. Would you mind helping close a discussion at Talk:TikTok#Community Guidelines and Transparency Center, and implement accordingly? I saw that you've edited the YouTube article significantly, including a bit to the section on YouTube's community guidelines, so hopefully the subject matter at TikTok is relevant for you as well.
Some context: There has been some discussion there already, but the conversation died out before anyone got a chance to implement at least the parts of my proposed edits that most of the editors agreed on. So I feel it would be good to get closure from outside eyes like yours. Finally, I'll note that I have not added even the agreed-upon material unilaterally, due to my COI. Thank you, Bkenny44 (talk) 18:07, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Bkenny44 that isn't the kind of discussion that is typically closed. I would suggest offering a revised version of what you originally suggested that is changed based on the feedback offered by FormalDude, Skdb, and SMcCandlish and see what kind of feedback that suggestion gets. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 21:23, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
Evaluation required
Hello, once in a while you gave me valuable recommendations how to deal with possibly disruptive editing in Lithuanian topics. There is a recent case at the administrators noticeboard about an user Marcelus who is actively describing one of the most competent and recognized experts in Lithuanian content Zigmas Zinkevičius as chauvinistic pig
(1, 2) and saying that his intentions is to describe him as such
(3). Mr. Zinkevičius is one of the most important and acknowledged authors in the main Lithuanian encyclopedias (Visuotinė lietuvių enciklopedija and Mažosios Lietuvos enciklopedija), so such intentions can cause significant harm to Lithuanian content and unnecessary WP:BATTLEGROUNDs. Two other users already acknowledged possible serious violations of Wikipedia's rules, including WP:SYNTH, WP:POVPUSH, WP:OR. So I kindly request you to evaluate this report: Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Disruptive editing by Marcelus before it is turned into a skyscraper of text and such actions spreads into other Lithuanian artices.
Have a nice day, -- Pofka (talk) 21:50, 23 January 2023 (UTC)